Bex Spanish log 2019: a definitive guide on the slowest way to learn Spanish ever!

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Re: Bex Spanish log 2019: a definitive guide on the slowest way to learn Spanish ever!

Postby Bex » Thu May 02, 2019 2:08 pm

Super Challenge April totals:
Books read: 4
Films watched: 5.6

Total so far: 54 books & 69 films

Still not reading enough :roll:
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Re: Bex Spanish log 2019: a definitive guide on the slowest way to learn Spanish ever!

Postby DaveAgain » Thu May 02, 2019 4:38 pm

Bex wrote:Super Challenge April totals:
Books read: 4
Films watched: 5.6

Total so far: 54 books & 69 films

Still not reading enough :roll:
Don't knock it, your reading numbers are way better than mine. :-)
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Re: Bex Spanish log 2019: a definitive guide on the slowest way to learn Spanish ever!

Postby GnomeChomsky » Sun May 05, 2019 6:15 pm

Bex wrote:Went to the cinema yesterday with my kids to watch Vengadores: Endgame. They wanted to see it in English so we ended up watching the VOSE version.

It was really interesting, not the film (that was the usual 'save the world' stuff) but the subtitles in Spanish!

I could read and understand probably 99% of it, I noticed many interesting translations where they didn't match up but the translation was obviously trying to portray the meaning instead.

It really shocked me that I understood so much and followed so easily.

Now if only I could speak like a Vengadora 8-)


That's fantastic that you understood so much! My guess is that the subtitles were fast, too. How are you liking readlang? Would you say the reading content is worth the $5 a month? I'm thinking about subscribing myself.
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Re: Bex Spanish log 2019: a definitive guide on the slowest way to learn Spanish ever!

Postby Bex » Mon May 06, 2019 7:10 am

GnomeChomsky wrote:That's fantastic that you understood so much! My guess is that the subtitles were fast, too.
Oh yes they were fast but I had hardly any problem following along, even listening in English and trying to watch! And they say multitasking is a myth :lol:

GnomeChomsky wrote:How are you liking readlang? Would you say the reading content is worth the $5 a month? I'm thinking about subscribing myself.
Readlang is good, I'm not much of a reader, I'm still having to force myself and I don't really enjoy it much.

The main reason I chose Readlang is the flashcards, I love the fact it orders them by frequency so I can fill all the holes in my vocabulary in some sort of sensible order.

I think LingQ or LWT are both better but I prefer reading on my phone over my laptop so LWT was a no-go for me .

LingQ is just too buggy/unreliable and expensive for me, but I'm happy to explain more about the issues and good features of LingQ if you're considering it, I've been using it for about a year now.

Readlang is definitely has the most usable extra features, with a good database and it's reliable, and not overpriced. I love that you can add YouTube videos as well, especially after Kraut explained how to capture the subtitles as a text.

https://forum.language-learners.org/vie ... es#p138548

All the readers are different there's kindle, Readlang and LingQ all with good content available.
And LWT and https://languagetools.io if you have your own content to read.

I've used them all quite a bit so if you have any questions ask away but it really just depends on what features you'd like to use.

ETA: I just remembered you use Anki, in which case Readlang is better as you can export easily from Readlang to Anki.
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100 films. : 79 / 100

FSI Basic Spanish:
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Vol 2 - 16-30: 4 / 15

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Re: Bex Spanish log 2019: a definitive guide on the slowest way to learn Spanish ever!

Postby Bex » Mon May 06, 2019 12:37 pm

Went through FSI lesson 15 today, it was all about Indirect clitic pronouns, so I decided to revise my direct and indirect object pronouns.

Is it just me or does the internet make things overly complicated?

As far as I can see the only difference between direct and indirect forms is in the he/she/formal (+ plural) forms but their meanings are so different that it would be hard to muddle them up...

Direct
Lo/ la = a noun (it, the pizza, the menu, etc) and Los/Las for the plural forms.
Example: I am eating it (the pizza) = La cómo

Indirect
Le = to or from he/she/ formal.
Example: I wrote a letter to him = Le escribé una carta.

Both together
Indirect is always first and you can't have le + lo... so It becomes se lo.

Example together: I wrote him it (a letter) = se la escribé

Or am I missing something really important :oops: and it's not that simple?
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Re: Bex Spanish log 2019: a definitive guide on the slowest way to learn Spanish ever!

Postby Morgana » Mon May 06, 2019 9:03 pm

Bex wrote:ETA: I just remembered you use Anki, in which case Readlang is better as you can export easily from Readlang to Anki.
I have a question: when you export from Readlang to Anki, are the cards customizable? Can you include full sentences or is it only words?
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Re: Bex Spanish log 2019: a definitive guide on the slowest way to learn Spanish ever!

Postby AndyMeg » Tue May 07, 2019 12:10 am

Bex wrote:Direct
Lo/ la = a noun (it, the pizza, the menu, etc) and Los/Las for the plural forms.
Example: I am eating it (the pizza) = La cómo

"Como" va sin tilde. La tilde cambia el significado del verbo "comer" al de una pregunta indirecta (how), lo cual no tendría sentido en esta oración.

Bex wrote:Indirect
Le = to or from he/she/ formal.
Example: I wrote a letter to him = Le escribé una carta.

En este caso la oración está en pasado y "escribí" va con "i" no con "e". Si estuviera en presente y fuera otro sujeto (él o ella) sí sería "escribe", pero sin tilde: le escribe una carta (he/she writes a letter to him).

Bex wrote:Both together
Indirect is always first and you can't have le + lo... so It becomes se lo.

Example together: I wrote him it (a letter) = se la escribé

"Escribí" va con "i" no con "e".

Bex wrote:Or am I missing something really important :oops: and it's not that simple?

I'm always amazed by how much explicit grammar foreing language learners get to know. Which sometimes makes me feel embarrassed when I want to explain something about my native language and the only thing I can say is either "it sounds right" or "it sounds wrong/weird" :lol: :oops:
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Re: Bex Spanish log 2019: a definitive guide on the slowest way to learn Spanish ever!

Postby Bex » Tue May 07, 2019 9:07 am

AndyMeg wrote:
Bex wrote:Direct
Lo/ la = a noun (it, the pizza, the menu, etc) and Los/Las for the plural forms.
Example: I am eating it (the pizza) = La cómo

"Como" va sin tilde. La tilde cambia el significado del verbo "comer" al de una pregunta indirecta (how), lo cual no tendría sentido en esta oración.

Bex wrote:Indirect
Le = to or from he/she/ formal.
Example: I wrote a letter to him = Le escribé una carta.

En este caso la oración está en pasado y "escribí" va con "i" no con "e". Si estuviera en presente y fuera otro sujeto (él o ella) sí sería "escribe", pero sin tilde: le escribe una carta (he/she writes a letter to him).

Bex wrote:Both together
Indirect is always first and you can't have le + lo... so It becomes se lo.

Example together: I wrote him it (a letter) = se la escribé

"Escribí" va con "i" no con "e".

Bex wrote:Or am I missing something really important :oops: and it's not that simple?

I'm always amazed by how much explicit grammar foreing language learners get to know. Which sometimes makes me feel embarrassed when I want to explain something about my native language and the only thing I can say is either "it sounds right" or "it sounds wrong/weird" :lol: :oops:

"Cómo" - este fue mi corrector ortográfico no yo :roll:

"Escribí" va con "i" no con "e". - Esta es la razón por la que en este momento estoy trabajando en mi libro "Perfecting the Spanish Past Tenses"... :lol: :lol: :lol:

Muchísimas gracias por tu ayuda.
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Re: Bex Spanish log 2019: a definitive guide on the slowest way to learn Spanish ever!

Postby Bex » Tue May 07, 2019 9:36 am

Morgana wrote:
Bex wrote:ETA: I just remembered you use Anki, in which case Readlang is better as you can export easily from Readlang to Anki.
I have a question: when you export from Readlang to Anki, are the cards customizable? Can you include full sentences or is it only words?

There is a video explaining how to export from ReadLang to Anki:


There may be more information in the Readlang knowledge base here:
https://readlang.uservoice.com/knowledgebase

I've only just looked but it seems that you can choose all sorts of options, including sentences, cloze etc. I've attached a screenshot of the options I can see when I click on 'export' in my ReadLang account.

I haven't used any of this yet so I don't know how well it works, but having looked it just now, it looks like you may easily be able to create some very nice cards in Anki.

HTH
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Re: Bex Spanish log 2019: a definitive guide on the slowest way to learn Spanish ever!

Postby Morgana » Wed May 08, 2019 12:05 am

Bex wrote:
Morgana wrote:
Bex wrote:ETA: I just remembered you use Anki, in which case Readlang is better as you can export easily from Readlang to Anki.
I have a question: when you export from Readlang to Anki, are the cards customizable? Can you include full sentences or is it only words?
...

HTH
Thanks!
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