Anno nuovo, log nuovo (2019)

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Tristano
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Re: Anno nuovo, log nuovo (2019)

Postby Tristano » Tue Aug 13, 2019 8:55 pm

Reading the post about learning a language only through speaking has deleterious effects on me.
So I decided to slow down my already slow study of Greek and try to learn to speak a language through mainly speaking... or better, repeating what the natives say. And reading random articles. And test myself at the end. (Though don't hold your breath, the probability I finish a project are extremely low. You should know it by now)

In order to succeed I need a language that is transparent enough for me, so something related to a language I already speak and or that I already studied it and can partially understand but not speak yet.

Romanian, German, afrikaans and Portuguese are perfect options for me.
But I don't plan to go to south Africa any time soon. Actually I'm going to Germany very soon which makes the choice easy (= everything except German, it would actually be useful so bad idea). Today I had fun with Romanian, but seriously speaking, I should fill my head with German before going to Germany. And I don't need to use italki to test myself ;)
I just hope my brain stops decorating "eu scriu o scrisoare" (not sure about the spelling, let alone the grammar).

I drive a lot for work. 50languages will be the tool. And lot of repetition. Only two weeks of time for 100 lessons.
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Re: Anno nuovo, log nuovo (2019)

Postby StringerBell » Wed Aug 14, 2019 2:43 am

Have you already considered Pimsleur as a way to learn through only speaking? Since you have a lot of time in the car, it seems ideal. Maybe your local library system has it?

Tristano wrote:I just hope my brain stops decorating "eu scriu o scrisoare"

BTW, I'm very curious about what this means!
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Re: Anno nuovo, log nuovo (2019)

Postby Tristano » Wed Aug 14, 2019 4:07 am

Declaring. Nor decorating. Lol
It means "I write a letter".
I can't use Pimsleur because it is too slow and also because I already used it for German (same with Michel Thomas). Plus it is too less material.
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Re: Anno nuovo, log nuovo (2019)

Postby Tristano » Wed Aug 14, 2019 5:39 pm

Did today lessons 1 to 30 of 50 languages German (also known as book 2).

Tomorrow I'll do 15 to 45, Monday 30 to 60 etc.

German is easy for me in this moment, with some previous study and knowledge of Dutch. That's how I process so much so fast. I still have to do lot of repetition, and I'll lose it as fast as I progressed if I won't keep practising. Reading extensively for an extended period of time would have a much more long lasting and deep effect.

If I succeed with this experiment I can adapt it to different languages. My Romanian, Hebrew, Bulgarian and Greek are suffering. With Spanish and French it would be a good refresh. Maybe using Dutch instead of Italian as a base. All if I can handle the boredom - it is dry.
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Re: Anno nuovo, log nuovo (2019)

Postby Tristano » Thu Aug 15, 2019 8:05 pm

Until now it is a walk in the park. Except that sometimes I give the right answer but my tongue starts bleeding because of the many schwscjwschwig, a problem that sometimes I still have with Dutch (pronouncing something like "hoofdweg" is still very difficult for me). The method does a very good job into simultaneously teaching the structure of the language and introducing formal situations and business transactions that are very useful food tourists travelling to the country. The downside is: it's BORING. and in the 50+ languages they don't have Icelandic grrrrrr
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Re: Anno nuovo, log nuovo (2019)

Postby Tristano » Tue Aug 20, 2019 12:01 pm

Almost at the end. I did 85 lessons and this afternoon I will do the remaining 15.
The experience has been a bit painful but it gave me a lot of confidence to start speaking with a native. It really helped me activating the language. As for my current level, I guess something around A2. I guess after the vacation I'll study something different and I will tackle it with renewed enthousiasm in one year, doing something else (Assimil?) aspiring to a weak B1.

But overall I'm very happy about the results.

Then I will decide what to study next after my vacations in Germany, again using the same course (50 Languages / Book 2).
- Romanian? I can already read it and understand decently the spoken language with easy materials
- Portuguese? Never studied but I can understand a lot of it especially in written form
- Spanish? I can already speak it but I don't do it since years. I definitely need a refresh
- French? Same as Spanish
- Hebrew? Already studied it but completely forgot it. Much more challenging than the ones above.
- Greek? Similar to Hebrew, maybe a bit easier.
- Bulgarian? Same as Greek.
- Something else? Because after all, why not?
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Re: Anno nuovo, log nuovo (2019)

Postby Tristano » Thu Aug 22, 2019 10:45 am

Had a conversation in German with a colleague that also speaks 6 languages like me.
She was shocked to hear that I reached that level in 2 weeks 8-) (2 working weeks, that means 8 days actually)
(that level means: not fluent, but fluent enough to be understood, not kilingl someone for the boredom and able to talk about different topics - which is A2ish I guess)

Speaking already Dutch at c1ish level certainly helps, but good boost to my ego nonetheless!
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