Radioclare's 2019 log (Croatian/Russian)

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Re: Radioclare's 2019 log (Croatian/Russian)

Postby Radioclare » Thu Jul 18, 2019 9:42 pm

18 July
It was pouring with rain on the way to work this morning. I am missing the Sicilian sunshine!

Russian
Good progress with Memrise on the train. I'm nearly halfway through the Russian 3 course now.

I did lesson 11 of Pimsleur 3 while walking to work in the rain. As well as more case ending practice, this one introduced the verb называться. This reminded me why I like using lots of different resources at the same time, because this verb was also explained in a recent chapter of Colloquial Russian. Sometimes when you're using different courses it feels like you've started everything and finished nothing, but I find I need to be told something multiple times in multiple different ways before it really sticks for me, so I love it when something I've partially learned in one course crops up in a different place :-)

I did have more spare time this evening, so I continued with chapter 7 of Colloquial Russian. I worked through a page and a half of exercises on the instrumental case, which took about half an hour. I'm still not quite at the end of the chapter, but I decided to leave the rest for another day.

Russian Progress published a new reading text today with stress marks. I read it briefly on the train and there were quite a few words I didn't know and couldn't guess, so I decided to be diligent and go through it properly on LWT this evening, looking up all the new words. This seemed like a good idea at the time, but I hadn't thought through the implication of the stress marks. LWT didn't like them (basically it split each word in two at the stress mark) so I had to go through the text deleting them before I imported it. That must have wasted a good twenty minutes, so I don't think I'm going to be virtuous enough to do intensive reading with these texts in future.

Total time = 137 minutes. Streak = 199 days
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Re: Radioclare's 2019 log (Croatian/Russian)

Postby Radioclare » Fri Jul 19, 2019 11:20 pm

19 July
I worked from home today so was able to set the alarm for 8am. Bliss! I also finished work early because, rather unusually for me, I had Friday night plans.

Russian
I had a very brief window between finishing work and leaving home to do some Russian. I used it to work though the final part of chapter 7 of Colloquial Russian, which was about the declension of чей. This was the bit I'd saved yesterday, because the declension of чей has never been high on my list of priorities. I had enough time to make notes and finish the final exercises in the chapter before dinner, but this didn't take me to 30 minutes.

After dinner, my boyfriend drove me to Bedford, where we were going to see a play with an Esperanto link. We had time for a drink in the hotel bar before we went to the theatre and I used the time to get up to date with my Memrise reviews. Memrise goes faster with wine.

Total time = 33 minutes. Streak = 200 days

Esperanto
The play we went to see was called Wesele and there was actually more Polish in it than Esperanto, but that was quite interesting for me because I was able to see how much Polish I could understand (more than I expected) :-) It was about a Polish wedding and throughout the performance, shots of vodka were handed round to the audience at regular intervals. By the time I'd had three shots I was very glad I hadn't left my 30 minutes of Russian until I got back to the hotel :lol:
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Re: Radioclare's 2019 log (Croatian/Russian)

Postby cjareck » Sat Jul 20, 2019 8:17 pm

Radioclare wrote: It was about a Polish wedding and throughout the performance, shots of vodka were handed round to the audience at regular intervals.

That's true. Polish weddings are mostly full of vodka. I had to drink it even on mine ;) But it is hard to avoid it during weddings, and in my profession, during banquettes after academic conferences...
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Re: Radioclare's 2019 log (Croatian/Russian)

Postby Radioclare » Sat Jul 20, 2019 8:33 pm

20 July
Had a walk around Bedford this morning before coming home and it turns out it's quite a pretty place. This afternoon I was making arrangements for a short trip to Spain at the end of August, although that might not end up happening because there are airport strikes planned for the weekend in question.

Russian
I spent half an hour or so this afternoon making a start on chapter 8 of Colloquial Russian. This is the chapter about holidays, so the content is more interesting than in the chapter about sport :lol: So far I've just been reading and listening to the dialogues and doing the short exercises which follow them. I've got to a stage in the book where quite a few of the words in the dialogues feel "new" to me, i.e. I feel like I need to make the effort to learn them, so I began contemplating whether or not I should create a new Memrise course for myself consisting of useful vocab from this textbook.

I couldn't decide whether to do it or not, because on the one hand it felt like it would be a really useful thing to have but on the other hand it felt like it would be a really boring thing to create. My motivation to create a course was diminished by the fact that I had previously created a Colloquial Russian course on Memrise the first time I was trying to use this textbook (maybe some time in 2018?) but I thought I'd deleted it. Either when I was annoyed about Memrise changing to Decks or at some other point when I was trying to rationalise the number of Memrise courses I was studying. If there's anything less fun that typing hundreds of words into Memrise and uploading the corresponding audio, it's doing all that when you know you've already done it once before :lol: I'd pretty much decided I wasn't going to bother... when I logged into Memrise and found that I hadn't actually deleted my course :o It turns out I'd just unsubscribed from it in some way but it was still lurking there in the background so I was able to start learning it again. Starting learning it again meant in practice that I had 872 reviews to do. That took a while! But definitely not as long as starting from scratch would have done, so overall a good result :)

To do something slightly more relaxing, this evening I also listened to a Russian Progress podcast about profanity in Russian. I started off just listening, but somewhere in the middle it got too difficult for me and I had to go back to the beginning and follow the text while listening.

Total time = 86 minutes. Streak = 201 days

Croatian
I need to make a conscious effort to restore a bit more Croatian to my life. I have been trying to get back into watching my series this week and starting to wonder what I'm going to watch next. I had one very confused moment where I saw a character whose face I definitely recognised, but who I just couldn't place in the story. Eventually - with the help of Google - I realised she was actually a new character to this series but I recognised the actress from 'Zora dubrovačka' :lol:
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Re: Radioclare's 2019 log (Croatian/Russian)

Postby Radioclare » Sun Jul 21, 2019 7:00 pm

21 July
A weekend day spent completely at home. I haven't actually got too many of those this summer, so have been making the most of today.

Russian
Somehow I had 200+ Memrise reviews to clear today. When I'd done that, I revised the vocab from Chapter 8 of Colloquial Russian in my newly discovered Memrise course. I seem to have got as far as entering the vocab from unit 10 last time I was working with this textbook. Mostly I find all my failed attempts to learn Russian embarrassing (what do I answer if someone asks how long I've been learning Russian?! :lol: ) but finding this course that past-me made is one positive bonus :)

I also finished reading and listening to all the dialogues in Chapter 8 and doing the associated exercises this afternoon. I then started the grammar section of this chapter and found it was about adjectives. And I think this section on adjectives was almost the point at which I got fed up with the textbook and gave up last time, because it pretty much says "Russian adjectives have lots of endings. There's a table of them at the back of the book". I still don't really think that's a great way to teach them; I would prefer to have them introduced gradually, in the same way that the book has introduced the noun endings. But at least this isn't the first time I've attempted to learn the adjective endings, so I'm not quite as dismayed by it as I was first time around. I spent some time copying out tables and attempting to memorise them. I didn't do any of the exercises because if I had done them just after staring at the tables, I'd probably have got them correct. But the test will be whether I can get any of them correct tomorrow, 24 hours after having allegedly memorised them :lol:

Total time = 43 minutes. Streak = 202 days

I could have spent more time studying Russian today but I didn't, because...

Bulgarian
I decided that my brain wasn't confused enough by two Slavic languages and have started learning Bulgarian :) Well, I'm spending the first week of September in Bulgaria so I'm hoping to acquire "survival Bulgarian" before then. I would be doing a 6WC in Bulgarian if the 6WC still existed, but I guess I'm essentially doing my own private 6WC between now and September. I have never learned any Bulgarian previously, although I did have a failed attempt at learning Macedonian some time in 2014/15.

My boyfriend bought me an A1 Bulgarian workbook for Christmas so I made a start on that today and got through the first chapter. The good news is that the alphabet is almost the same as in Russian, so I was able to hit the ground running that respect. A few letters look the same but are pronounced differently (for example, щ is "sht") and there is a new vowel ъ to contend with, but I was happy to find that I don't need to install another keyboard and can use my Russian one to type Bulgarian.

I also found quite a cool website called Bulgaro, which has some online lessons to learn basic Bulgarian. You can only get so far without a subscription but I did some of the free lessons this morning and found them really good. The style is a bit like Duolingo, but with more useful vocabulary.

Total time = 94 minutes
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Re: Radioclare's 2019 log (Croatian/Russian)

Postby Radioclare » Mon Jul 22, 2019 9:20 pm

22 July
I think the trend of Monday being my most productive day of the week continues. I seem to have more willpower on a Monday :)

Russian
I got through all my Memrise reviews on the train and had time to learn new vocab too. I'm now officially over halfway through the Memrise 3 course.

I completed lesson 12 of Pimsleur 3 on the way to work. Lots of case endings in this lesson and some practice of the instrumental, which was useful for me. All without any explanation of what the cases are, of course. If I was just learning with Pimsleur I would be extremely confused right now :D

This evening I continued with chapter 8 of Colloquial Russian. I did the first grammar exercise, which involved putting nouns and adjectives in the correct case. There was a hard and soft adjective in each case (except nominative) for a noun of each gender, which amounted to 30 sentences in total. I got 25/30, which I was quite pleased with. It seems I'm better at masculine nouns than feminine or neuter ones, so that's interesting to know. Maybe because I always start memorising the masculine endings and lose the will to live by the time I've got to the end of those :lol: There weren't any questions on plurals, so maybe they will be covered in a subsequent lesson. Anyway, I was fed up of grammar by the time I'd done 30 sentences so I decided to save the second exercise for tomorrow.

Finally I watched a Russian Progress video, which was an interview with a couple of Russian teachers.

Total time = 98 minutes. Streak = 203 days

Bulgarian
I did another lesson on bulgaro.io, which was learning basic words like please, thank you, good morning etc. I learned that in some situations, Bulgarians use the word "мерси" to say thank you. I thought this was funny - I wonder what the history of it is?! I also learned how to say "Може ли едно кафе, моля?" which is one of the key phrases I wanted to master for my holiday :)

I also studied another page in my Bulgarian textbook, starting the second chapter. The page I was studying was about names for different professions, all of which so far seem very similar either to Croatian or Russian. I'm contemplating whether I need to make a Bulgarian Memrise deck to keep all these words straight in my head.

Total time = 19 minutes
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Re: Radioclare's 2019 log (Croatian/Russian)

Postby Radioclare » Tue Jul 23, 2019 10:17 pm

23 July
It's surprisingly hot in the UK at the moment. I was actually glad to be in the office today for the air conditioning :lol:

Russian
After Memrise on the train, I did lesson 13 of Pimsleur 3 on the way to work. This lesson started teaching a little bit about aspect.

This evening I did the exercise in Colloquial Russian which I'd lost the will to do yesterday. It actually wasn't too bad.

I figured that since I'm finally making some progress with Russian, I should start trying to do some basic writing. Hahahaha. There's nothing like trying to string a coherent sentence together in a language to make it clear that you don't know anything at all. The benefit of recording all my Russian time on Toggl is that I can tell you it took me 46 minutes to write 150 words, most of which are probably wrong :lol:

Total time = 112 minutes. Streak = 204 days

Croatian
Writing in Russian was so strenuous that it made me feel quite nostalgic for the days when I used to try and write 150 words of Croatian. Maybe I should start doing that again to cheer myself up :lol:

For the time being, all I am doing is continuing with my series. Less than 20 episodes to go now! The current storyline revolves around the characters stealing a parrot and smuggling it across the border from Bosnia :shock: I actually thought I must have misheard the word when I first heard it because it seemed like such a surreal storyline but no, they really are smuggling a parrot.

Bulgarian
I bought a phrasebook, which arrived today :) I found the Lonely Planet phrasebook really helpful leading up to my Russia trip, so I've gone for the same brand with Bulgarian. I've decided that I will make a Memrise course but only include words that are actually going to be useful for my trip, as opposed to all the random words in my textbook. Like it will be useful to know how to say I want a coffee, but not so useful to know how to say that I am an American man. Hopefully this means I get the benefit of doing Memrise, without so much hassle of making a course :)

Total time = 14 minutes
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Re: Radioclare's 2019 log (Croatian/Russian)

Postby cjareck » Wed Jul 24, 2019 6:43 am

Radioclare wrote:I figured that since I'm finally making some progress with Russian, I should start trying to do some basic writing. Hahahaha. There's nothing like trying to string a coherent sentence together in a language to make it clear that you don't know anything at all. The benefit of recording all my Russian time on Toggl is that I can tell you it took me 46 minutes to write 150 words, most of which are probably wrong :lol:

Open Google Translate set it to translate from Russian into English and start writing in Russian. You will receive instant feedback ;) I use this method for Russian and Hebrew, and it works quite good - it corrects basic spelling mistakes in words by suggesting the correction and the translation gives you a general idea if the text actually means what it was supposed to.
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Re: Radioclare's 2019 log (Croatian/Russian)

Postby Radioclare » Wed Jul 24, 2019 9:37 pm

cjareck wrote:Open Google Translate set it to translate from Russian into English and start writing in Russian. You will receive instant feedback ;) I use this method for Russian and Hebrew, and it works quite good - it corrects basic spelling mistakes in words by suggesting the correction and the translation gives you a general idea if the text actually means what it was supposed to.


That's a good idea, thanks :) I often just google phrases that I'm not sure of as well and see how many hits different versions I get. If there are no hits, I know I've made a serious mistake :lol:

24 July
I was working at home today. I missed the office air con.

Russian
After work this evening I listened to a Russian Progress podcast, which was explaining the phrase "мир тесен". Then I decided to do a bit more of Colloquial Russian and unexpectedly managed to finish chapter 8. The remaining grammar points were mainly about the use of свой, which feels like a fairly straightforward bit of grammar, so the exercises didn't take me very long.

Total time = 38 minutes. Streak = 205 days

Bulgarian
I did a few more exercises on the Bulgaro website and I set up my Bulgarian Memrise desk. I started practising the numbers 1 - 10.

Total time = 11 minutes
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Re: Radioclare's 2019 log (Croatian/Russian)

Postby Radioclare » Thu Jul 25, 2019 10:10 pm

25 July
The weather was hotter than the UK rail network could cope with today and so there was absolute chaos at my station on the way home. I left work on time at 17.30 and wasn't sitting on a moving train until 19.00. All very frustrating, and I didn't manage to use any of that time productively for language learning. It was too noisy in the station to listen to any audio and I felt like I couldn't even do a bit of Memrise without audio, because I was constantly trying to figure out whether I was on the right platform and check both the boards and my train app for updates about when a train might arrive.

Russian
Anyway, the journey to work was fine at least and I did my usual Memrise, as well as lesson 14 of Pimsleur 3. I'm honestly not sure what this lesson was trying to teach. The only new word I remember it introducing was река. I mean, it wasn't a new word for me but a word which hadn't previously been used in Pimsleur. I only seem to average 3 - 4 lessons of Pimsleur a week, so it's still going to take me a while to get to the end of the course (I think there are 32 lessons in this level).

This evening I watched a Russian Progress vlog about St Petersburg, which was really cool because I recognised lots of places I'd been :) And I started chapter 9 of Colloquial Russian with great enthusiasm, only to find that chapter 9 is the one about dates and I absolutely hate dates. I starting trying to make notes about which case is used for what, but I didn't have enough motivation to do the first exercise.

Total time = 88 minutes. Streak = 206 days

Bulgarian
I practised the numbers 1 - 10 via Memrise on the way to work and I think I've mastered them now. I also did another of the lessons on the Bulgaro website this evening, which was about gender and plurals. I find when I'm typing the exercises that I'm making more mistakes influenced by Russian than by Croatian, which I think is largely due to the alphabet.

Total time = 14 minutes
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