zjones wrote:Cavesa wrote:That sounds great! Either you'll get one of those jobs, or an even better one, now that you're the Master of Interviews.
Out of curiosity, why on earth have you been adviced to leave French out of your resume?
It is completely weird, as a language or two are considered an awesome addition or even a must in the non anglophone countries.
It would be reasonable, if your level was really low,if you were not certified, you had too many languages there already, or knew your future boss didn't like the language for some reason, or I don't know what else. But why would you leave it out? It says only positive things about you!
I have seen mixed advice given by numerous people (here) and gotten specific advice from hiring managers (reddit). Language learners are more likely to say "Put it on the resume" but from hiring managers I hear "If it doesn't apply, leave it off" and "If they don't need to know you speak a second language if you won't need to speak it on the job." I thought it was a little bizarre.
In the interview, I did get the awkward question, "So, are you fluent?" and I waffled on that question. Looking back I wish I would have just answered in French.
The rule of thumb that I use with résumés (as applicant and hiring manger alike) is to make them no longer than one page long (i.e. one side only). Outside academia, résumés longer than that are often a turn-off. If on one page you can't fit a line about any foreign languages that you know, and you don't need to know them for the job anyway, then keep it off the résumé. Otherwise, put down in that line the foreign languages that you do know (especially if you're pretty sure that you can answer potential questions in the interview using that language). In a cover letter, I always include a sentence or two about my interest/abilities in foreign languages.
You probably know that CEFR isn't well-known on this side of the ocean so qualify your knowledge of French with something like "French - conversational", "working knowledge of French" or even "basic fluency in French".
For what it's worth, I put down my knolwedge of some foreign languages on my résumé but only those in which I'm confident that I could conduct at least part of the interview in that language. This means that I put it down as: "fluent in French, working knowledge of German, conversational ability in Hungarian, Polish, and Slovak", and it hasn't been a problem even though I've never worked anywhere where I needed to know any language other than English (my experience with Microsoft Office - especially VBA programming - has been more interesting to hiring managers). Sometimes, I've received polite questions about it, but once I got quite lucky when the hiring manager turned out to be a transplanted Slovak who was obviously curious about my skills in the interview. We switched midstream to Slovak for a few minutes and in addition to asking me about salary expectations (a good test of recalling how to use numbers in Slovak, incidentally) and my connection to the language, we found out that we had a few of the same Czech and Slovak acquaintances/friends. These definitely helped me in getting an offer.