Chove's Log (Spanish, German, Polish, French)

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Re: Chove's Log (Spanish, German, Polish, French)

Postby devilyoudont » Thu Sep 10, 2020 12:20 pm

Rote memorization tasks are a constant annoyance for me in all languages. I find that there are 2 things I need to do in order to accomplish the task:

1) Using Anki, set my number of new cards a day to only a handful of cards. This keeps my time using the app below 30 minutes a day... Above 30 minutes a day, I am aware that I will get sick of using anki and quit it.
2) Focus on producing what I am memorizing, not recognizing what I am memorizing. Just me personally, I find that the memory is stickier if I do it this way.

Hope this is helpful
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Re: Chove's Log (Spanish, German, Polish, French)

Postby gsbod » Thu Sep 10, 2020 5:09 pm

Yes, sometimes you just have to suck it up and deliberately try to force things into your brain. Given that the problem areas you have highlighted (conjugations and declensions) are more grammar than vocabulary oriented, you may find that regularly working through grammar drills targeted to your problem areas will be enough.

Another option is to make your own drills and put them into Anki so they're regularly repeated and really hammer things home. Translation exercises work best for me, other people make cloze cards but these just don't work for me well enough to be worth the effort. I'm also using an Anki deck to specifically drill conjugations of Spanish verbs at the moment and I think it is helping, to an extent.

I agree with everything devilyoudont says on Anki, except my happy place for using the app is below 20 minutes a day. I can do more over shorter periods of time, but eventually I get sick of it too.
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Re: Chove's Log (Spanish, German, Polish, French)

Postby chove » Thu Sep 10, 2020 8:55 pm

I could write things down over and over again maybe, sometimes that seems to work.
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Re: Chove's Log (Spanish, German, Polish, French)

Postby tungemål » Thu Sep 10, 2020 9:20 pm

I don't know if it is the best way, but I used to write out (longhand) all the conjugations of a handfull of spanish verbs. I think writing is good for memory.
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Re: Chove's Log (Spanish, German, Polish, French)

Postby chove » Thu Sep 17, 2020 5:38 am

tungemål wrote:I don't know if it is the best way, but I used to write out (longhand) all the conjugations of a handfull of spanish verbs. I think writing is good for memory.


Yeah, I do find writing things out longhand is a great help for me. Not sure *why* but if it works it works! :lol: I've actually added an extra step to my university note-taking this year -- first I write vocab on A4, *then* in my A5 notebooks, then I put them into Anki. Seems to be helping a bit, which is good because in general I'm finding German words harder to remember than Spanish words, I think just because of the cognates factor in Spanish.

Anyway, I've been getting on with the German course at what I hope is a reasonable pace. Still doing a bit of other languages as a break from all the German, though I'm probably dropping my iTalki Polish lessons for the foreseeable future. (I remind myself that I've been learning Polish for years and there's no need to rush.) Trying to mix in some media for Spanish, latest thing has been watching Star Trek Voyager with English subs and Spanish dub. (I unsubscribed from Netflix because it was far too easy to end up bingewatching TV shows but I have the DVDs now.)
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Re: Chove's Log (Spanish, German, Polish, French)

Postby DaveAgain » Thu Sep 17, 2020 5:56 am

chove wrote:Trying to mix in some media for Spanish, latest thing has been watching Star Trek Voyager with English subs and Spanish dub. (I unsubscribed from Netflix because it was far too easy to end up bingewatching TV shows but I have the DVDs now.)
I've been watching a lot of Channel 4's French TV with English subtitles recently, mostly 6 episode miniseries.

For Spanish I noticed they have one series called Locked Up (Vis a vis?) with 44 episodes. (All the Channel 4 'World Drama' programmes have always on English subs)
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Re: Chove's Log (Spanish, German, Polish, French)

Postby chove » Sat Sep 19, 2020 7:34 am

Which is better for improving my intermediateish Spanish -- Spanish audio with English subs, or English audio with Spanish subs?
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Re: Chove's Log (Spanish, German, Polish, French)

Postby DaveAgain » Sat Sep 19, 2020 8:27 am

chove wrote:Which is better for improving my intermediateish Spanish -- Spanish audio with English subs, or English audio with Spanish subs?
You could be the test-subject-Chove in an experiment to discover the answer! A week of one, followed by a week of the other: which was better?
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Re: Chove's Log (Spanish, German, Polish, French)

Postby lingua » Sat Sep 19, 2020 8:58 pm

chove wrote:Which is better for improving my intermediateish Spanish -- Spanish audio with English subs, or English audio with Spanish subs?


If you're at the intermediate level I recommend Spanish audio with Spanish subs as the only way to go. That's what I do with Italian when I don't have them completely off.
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Re: Chove's Log (Spanish, German, Polish, French)

Postby chove » Sat Sep 19, 2020 9:41 pm

lingua wrote:
chove wrote:Which is better for improving my intermediateish Spanish -- Spanish audio with English subs, or English audio with Spanish subs?


If you're at the intermediate level I recommend Spanish audio with Spanish subs as the only way to go. That's what I do with Italian when I don't have them completely off.


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