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Re: Any two-digit number of languages being learned or micro-learned in rotation

Postby SGP » Sun Dec 23, 2018 2:45 pm

Jamaican Patois: Tanzania; Jumiekan Kryuol (Jamaican creole)

Source: https://jam.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tanzania

"Tanzania a wahn konchri ina Afrika."

This article has been quoted in its entirety. Below [on WP], there only is a link list about Africa and some of its countries. And the article isn't even marked as a "stub", as they would do it in the EN Wikipedia. Interesting impulse. Yes, I do mean it.

Source: https://jam.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jumiekan_Kryuol, emphasis SGP's

"Jumiekan Patwa a di nashinal langwij a di konchri a Jumieka. Alduo hIngglish a di hofishal langwij a Jumieka, ahn dehn aal av wa dehn kaal Jumiekan Ingglish, a muosli bakra ahn tapanaaris yu ie wid i ina hofishal sorkl, anles smadi a chrai piiki-puoki fi himpres piipl. Noftaim, Jumiekan piipl muuv bitwiin di braad Patwa ahn Jumiekan Ingglish wen dem de taak, aal iina di siem sentens."

hofishal: official
sorkl: circle, if I am not mistaken

"Pluural
[...]
Adawaiz, pluural indikiet bai kualifaya ar kantex:

wan bwai > tuu bwai

som bwai > some boys
[...]
Som wod kip dehn Ingglish pluural faam fi buot singgyula ahn pluural:
wahn ans > nof ans

wan flowaz > six flowaz"
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Re: Any two-digit number of languages being learned or micro-learned in rotation

Postby devilyoudont » Sun Dec 23, 2018 4:13 pm

Small correction:

SGP wrote:"in my chest": implied, not corresponding to any spoken (sung) Japanese words

I have highlighted in green where "in my chest" occurs.

SGP wrote:あの日と変わらない 胸の奥にある Ano hi to kawaranai mune no oku ni aru
it's no different from that day,

喜びと悲しみ 歌うよ Yoro kobi to kanashimi utau yo
I sing the happiness and sadness in my chest"[/size]

You will find that translations of song lyrics often move sub-clauses to the previous or following verse.
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Re: Any two-digit number of languages being learned or micro-learned in rotation

Postby SGP » Sun Dec 23, 2018 4:22 pm

devilyoudont wrote:[...] I have highlighted in green where "in my chest" occurs.

SGP wrote:あの日と変わらない 胸の奥にある Ano hi to kawaranai mune no oku ni aru
it's no different from that day,

喜びと悲しみ 歌うよ Yoro kobi to kanashimi utau yo
I sing the happiness and sadness in my chest"[/size]

You will find that translations of song lyrics often move sub-clauses to the previous or following verse.

Ah, yes. Already read something similar in one or more translations. (I mean about moving sub-clauses). But that was a long time ago, and also before even more languages entered my life. Don't know where all of them keep coming from ;). It is always good to be reminded of things like these.
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Re: Any two-digit number of languages being learned or micro-learned in rotation

Postby SGP » Sun Dec 23, 2018 7:01 pm

The All Things Communication log has retired, and here's why:

https://forum.language-learners.org/vie ... 22#p126922

But the other one called Angewandte Kommunikation didn't retire at all, because it is about something entirely different (even if the titles sound similar).
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Re: Any two-digit number of languages being learned or micro-learned in rotation

Postby SGP » Sun Dec 23, 2018 10:45 pm

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Re: Any two-digit number of languages being learned or micro-learned in rotation

Postby SGP » Mon Dec 24, 2018 12:43 pm

Some information about the FSI courses:

https://forum.language-learners.org/vie ... 00#p127000
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Re: Any two-digit number of languages being learned or micro-learned in rotation

Postby SGP » Wed Dec 26, 2018 8:33 am

How one could avoid mixing up similar languages or dialects:

Part one

Part two
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Re: Any two-digit number of languages being learned or micro-learned in rotation

Postby SGP » Wed Dec 26, 2018 2:39 pm

IT EO FR ES RU RO JP PT:
Listened to a few sentences while reading them at the same time.
The purposes of this exercise also include reminding myself of them not being difficult at all. Small children are able to speak them as well.
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Re: Any two-digit number of languages being learned or micro-learned in rotation

Postby SGP » Thu Dec 27, 2018 7:24 pm

Swahili:

SGP wrote:As for Swahili, maybe a certain niche language learning approach could work for you, too. At least it works for me. It is the "most niche" idioma on my list. Don't know anyone with whom I could converse in it. But still I continue to learn it, and there even is some real progress as well.
More about that method
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Re: Any two-digit number of languages being learned or micro-learned in rotation

Postby SGP » Mon Dec 31, 2018 6:01 pm

I am not someone who makes any new year's resolutions. But I do set some goals whenever there is a reason for doing so. That said, these are my language learning goals for 2019 (not outruling adding a few more later):

- Being able to express myself better in Spanish and French (both spoken and written). Currently I can do some "beyond the basics" conversations, but there still is a lot of room for improvements.

- Learning to speak about basic everyday topics, like food and cooking, in Italian before three months would pass. That pressure-less "deadline" has been drawn because of a challenge after talking to an Italian I know in person.

- Advancing some more with Japanese (currently it is A1).

- Some steps towards Swahili becoming a bigger part of my life, even if it already has a place in it anyway. For those of us who don't know it, it is the language of Hakuna Matata.

- Accent reduction (not thinking at all about trying to fully remove it, nor I consider that even necessary): ES, FR, Swahili, Jamaican Patois, ... .

- Connecting my native language (German) to Dutch some more. I'd really be happy if my personal distance between these two would start to shrink some more. (And this sentence might even prove that I even if I wanted to, I couldn't tell anybody that my mother's tongue would be English instead. ;) )

- Basic conversational Esperanto.

- Reaching any post-A1 level of Polish, like A2. Currently it is pre-A1.

- Since Russian is the only "Very Major World Language" left that isn't included in my main learning list, I'd also like to have some speaking and reading skills. By the way, not counting Chinese, even if it is a Very Major World Language in another sense of the word (i.e. other than the meaning I intend in this context).

- Reaching the A1 level (at least) of some languages on my micro-learning list. They currently are all pre-A1. None of them are included in my profile's list (at the time I am writing this post).
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