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Re: Any two-digit number of languages being learned or micro-learned in rotation

Postby SGP » Mon Dec 17, 2018 9:44 pm

Everything in this post is about the minimum speaking ability.

FR: Some steps towards B2. Triggered when someone was talking to me in French. #ActivatingLatentKnowledge #ComprehensibleInput

ES: Coming a bit closer to C1. Happened when conversing with someone from Romania in an ES / IT / (RO) mix.

IT: A1 is a bit closer now.

RO: The same. (Although the reading ability differs. But this post has got a one-line intro.)

PL: The same, too.

SWA: Approaching B1. Started singing in it once again.
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Re: Any two-digit number of languages being learned or micro-learned in rotation

Postby SGP » Tue Dec 18, 2018 8:52 pm

PL: Some short but interesting conversation practice.
One could be surprised how some people from Poland react to even very simple phrases like "nie wiem" (I don't know).
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Re: Any two-digit number of languages being learned or micro-learned in rotation

Postby SGP » Tue Dec 18, 2018 8:59 pm

About all of those on the (profile's) learning list and the second one which is mental only:

Just wrote a Pen and Paper List mentioning all that I intend to learn in rotation right now.
Unqueued Esperanto. Queued some, like Italian and Portuguese. And by that I mean pushing the stop button, not just pause. Also, some of the previously micro-learned ones remained queued up to now, and nothing changed about them. Without pushing the stop button sometimes, rather than pause only, what (for example) I am doing would be a plain overkill. :roll: That's why I do like to push that button.

Currently queued to be learned in rotation:

(1) Spanish, French, Swahili, Japanese, Esperanto,
Jamaican Patois, Polish, Russian, Romanian, Dutch, toki pona.

(2) Wolof, Akan, Ewe (a.k.a. Efe), Ga (all African), Sinhala, and Tagalog/Filipino.
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Postby SGP » Tue Dec 18, 2018 9:16 pm

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Re: Any two-digit number of languages being learned or micro-learned in rotation

Postby SGP » Wed Dec 19, 2018 11:58 am

Polish

słowy: word.

This "it looks a bit like an L" letter is called the Dark L. Pronounced like the English W.
And the Polish W is pronounced like the German one. Except at the end of the word. "Lew" means lion. It is an F, just as in (DE) "Kaff". Which basically means village/small town, but there is some negative connotation as well.

dżungla: jungle.

Nie wiem: I don't know. "wiem" is the verb.

kiedy: when?

dziękuję: Thank you. (I am not aware of any informal vs. formal difference).

tak: yes.

nie: no.

Jest/są ... : There is/there are ... .

Two conjugated forms of "to be".

nie ma: It isn't there. / We don't have it.
Literally: not has.

To jest mleko: This is milk.
"mleko" is one of several Polish Noun Cases. Also already read "mleka" somewhere else, but not about this example.

Jest mleko: There is milk.
Literally: is milk.

To są jabłka: These are apples. #PolishConsonantClustersAreEasy

Bardzo dobrze: very good.

-rz- is the same as ż. Like the G in FR "gendarme".
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Re: Any two-digit number of languages being learned or micro-learned in rotation

Postby SGP » Wed Dec 19, 2018 12:22 pm

Polish

dobry: good
lepszy: better

zły: bad
gorszy: worse

ten sam: Used for speaking about the very same person or very same object. I.e. identical.

taki sam: For something similar, like two objects produced in the same factory. Even if they share the same model, shape, and color. But they still are two different objects.

prawda: right, true.

zawsze: always.

tani: cheap (as in in: inexpensive)

drogi: expensive

Some Polish Personal Pronouns ahead ;). But they aren't as frequently used as in English. The conjugated verbs contain the Personal Pronoun Information anyway.

ja: I

ty: you. (Singular. I don't know if Polish makes a distinction between "tu"/"du" and "vous"/"Sie" as in FR/DE.)

on: he

ona: she

ono: it

my: we

wy: you (plural)

oni: they (M or M and F)

one: they (F, or N, i.e. neuter or the neutrum (LAT))

Natives of Polish: So "one" would also be used for objects, because its simplified grammar definition would be "they, if not even one male person is included".
What about children, animals, and also M/F plants? At least a few authors and writers explaining PL (possibly non-natives) say that children and animals would always be referred to as "one", but I wouldn't want to rush in.
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Re: Any two-digit number of languages being learned or micro-learned in rotation

Postby SGP » Wed Dec 19, 2018 12:36 pm

Polish

To jest drogie: This is expensive.

mieć: to have.
ja mam: I have.
ty masz: you (singular) have.
on ma: he has.
ona ma: she has.
ono ma: it has.

Mam plan miasta.
I have a plan of the town/city. (Ich habe einen Stadtplan).
Literally: (I) have plan (of the) town/city.

miasta: Genetive of miasto.

Nie mogę: I can't.
Literally: not can (I).

Negation of verbs usually happens by adding "nie" before the conjugated verb.

kto: who?

jak: how?

i: and; [too/also] --> Spanish y, for the first meaning.

a: and; but.

albo: or.

Any difference between "a" (when used for "or") and "albo"?

dlatego że: because.

że: (DE) dass (old spelling: daß).
It is the English that. But the conjunction. I am not talking about the counterpart of "this".
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Re: Any two-digit number of languages being learned or micro-learned in rotation

Postby SGP » Sat Dec 22, 2018 9:26 pm

Intending not to mention any queuing or unqueuing of languages any more from now on.
If there is some progress about any of them, I plan to continue logging it anyway.

Japanese: Sensed an additional intuitive understanding of several songs I have been listening to for oh so long. Read their translations, too. Nihongo isn't much unfamiliar to me now than Kiswahili, and this does mean something. Because that one is too familiar to me even. Almost feels like something I have been knowing since my youth.

Polish: A long time ago, it was something I barely could decipher. Especially about the constant clusters that used to be difficult to remember. But German has them, too (although they differ a bit). Mindset related: Some of my ancestors were natives of Slavonic languages. By keeping that in mind and constantly reminding myself of it, there possibly was an additional boost. Anyway... if they could speak them, so could I.
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Re: Any two-digit number of languages being learned or micro-learned in rotation

Postby SGP » Sat Dec 22, 2018 9:37 pm

Polish; consonant clusters:

In the hindsight, I am wondering why I even considered them semi-difficult before. Consonants and vowels both are simply letters anyway. And words plainly consist of Consonant or Vowel or C/V Mix Clusters. That's all.
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Re: Any two-digit number of languages being learned or micro-learned in rotation

Postby SGP » Sun Dec 23, 2018 6:05 am

I recently added a new tool to the toolbox. This means quoting "any" text, partially or even completely sometimes, marking some words, adding grammar notes and language-related observations below, etc.
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