German, also known as Quenya from the 1st Age.

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German, also known as Quenya from the 1st Age.

Postby Melkor » Fri Oct 12, 2018 8:41 am

I am @Skynet's first convert to this forum! After months of being accosted and threatened with social sanctions, I have acquiesced to his demands and joined LLO. :lol:

Before I go any further, let me make it abundantly clear that I have at most 1/100th of a percentage point of the enthusiasm, energy and stamina that he has and must stress that I will not be using a billion resources to refine my German.

I intend to slowly work through either TYS Further German (1994) or TYS Improve Your German (2002/3). I would appreciate advice on which of the two to use. Someone - who shall not be named - had advised me to use both at the same time, an option that is at best, unviable.
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German, also known as Quenya from the 1st Age.

Postby Melkor » Tue Oct 16, 2018 6:55 am

After receiving helpful advice, I have concluded that either TYS "advanced" German course is not worth the time and effort as offerings from Linguaphone and Living Language Ultimate, which are simply better.

    Here is a list of courses that I will use sequentially:
    a) Living Language Ultimate Advanced (20)
    b) Linguaphone Advanced German (60)
    c) Linguaphone German Business (60)

I did not use courses to get to my current A2 level - I took classes at the local Goethe Institute - and am quite curious to see how far my German can advance using courses. :D

I am willing to spend an hour a day to complete these courses and a very vague and overly optimistic self-assessment suggests that this stint will be at least 280 days (40 weeks) long. Unfortunately. the only person who can coerce me into sticking to this plan is currently indisposed.

Until then, let me start with German internet radio...
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Re: German, also known as Valerian from the 1st Age.

Postby PeterMollenburg » Wed Oct 17, 2018 4:00 am

Welcome Melkor! I wish your German to improve tremendously!
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Re: German, also known as Valerian from the 1st Age.

Postby Deinonysus » Wed Oct 17, 2018 11:42 am

Viel Glück, Morgoth!
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German, also known as Quenya from the 1st Age.

Postby Melkor » Thu Oct 18, 2018 6:29 am

Deinonysus wrote:Viel Glück, Morgoth!


Ich freue mich, einen anderen Tolkien-Fan hier zu sehen! Hast du "The Silmarillion" auf Deutsch gelesen? Die englische Version, die ich als Teeinager gelesen habe, war nicht leicht zu lesen, aber ich würde mich gerne der Herausforderung stellen, sie eines Tages auf Deutsch zu lesen.

Wann immer Sie eine Unterkunft brauchen, werde ich immer einen Ersatzteil des Hauses in Utumno für Sie haben. :lol:
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Re: German, also known as Valerian from the 1st Age.

Postby Deinonysus » Thu Oct 18, 2018 12:54 pm

Melkor wrote:
Deinonysus wrote:Viel Glück, Morgoth!
Ich freue mich, einen anderen Tolkien-Fan hier zu sehen! Hast du "The Silmarillion" auf Deutsch gelesen? Die englische Version, die ich als Teeinager gelesen habe, war nicht leicht zu lesen, aber ich würde mich gerne der Herausforderung stellen, sie eines Tages auf Deutsch zu lesen.

Wann immer Sie eine Unterkunft brauchen, werde ich immer einen Ersatzteil des Hauses in Utumno für Sie haben. :lol:
Haha, nein, The Silmarillion konnte ich auf Englisch kaum lesen. :lol:

Meistens lese ich lieber keine Übersetzungen, außer Harry Potter. Es gibt so viele ausgezeichnete Bücher auf Deutsch und Französisch, dass wann ich auf diese Sprachen lese, lese ich lieber originale Bücher. Jetzt mache ich einen Deutschkurs, und mein nächstes Ziel ist Michael Endes Die unendliche Geschichte zu lesen (vielleicht im Juni nach dem Kurs). Als Kind habe ich es auf Englisch gelesen, und ich habe nicht gewusst, dass es ein deutsches Buch war.
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German, also known as Quenya from the 1st Age.

Postby Melkor » Fri Oct 19, 2018 5:50 am

Deinonysus wrote:Meistens lese ich lieber keine Übersetzungen, außer Harry Potter. Es gibt so viele ausgezeichnete Bücher auf Deutsch und Französisch, dass wann ich auf diese Sprachen lese, lese ich lieber originale Bücher. Jetzt mache ich einen Deutschkurs, und mein nächstes Ziel ist Michael Endes Die unendliche Geschichte zu lesen (vielleicht im Juni nach dem Kurs). Als Kind habe ich es auf Englisch gelesen, und ich habe nicht gewusst, dass es ein deutsches Buch war.


Genau! Das war kein einfaches Buch (und ich habe es als Teenager gelesen)! Welchen Kurs studierst du? Ich werde über Endes lesen müssen, weil ich noch nie von ihm gehört hatte. Ich möchte in der Lage sein, die Bibel auf Deutsch zu lesen - etwas, das ich immer noch tun muss, ohne mein Gehirn zu zerreißen. Lassen Sie mich Ihnen einige Fragen privat per E-Mail stellen.
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Re: German, also known as Valerian from the 1st Age.

Postby Soclydeza » Fri Oct 19, 2018 10:59 pm

Melkor wrote:After receiving helpful advice, I have concluded that either TYS "advanced" German course is not worth the time and effort as offerings from Linguaphone and Living Language Ultimate, which are simply better.

    Here is a list of courses that I will use sequentially:
    a) Living Language Ultimate Advanced (20)
    b) Linguaphone Advanced German (60)
    c) Linguaphone German Business (60)

I did not use courses to get to my current A2 level - I took classes at the local Goethe Institute - and am quite curious to see how far my German can advance using courses. :D

I am willing to spend an hour a day to complete these courses and a very vague and overly optimistic self-assessment suggests that this stint will be at least 280 days (40 weeks) long. Unfortunately. the only person who can coerce me into sticking to this plan is currently indisposed.

Until then, let me start with German internet radio...


Looks like a solid routine. I can vouch for LL Advanced; I didnt finish it but I learned a lot of good thematic vocab from it. I didnt know Linguaphpone German Business existed but I've been looking for something like that, thanks for the mention!

By the way, did you title your log after Valerian Germanicus Maximus?
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Re: German, also known as Valerian from the 1st Age.

Postby Skynet » Sat Oct 20, 2018 10:57 am

Soclydeza wrote:Looks like a solid routine. I can vouch for LL Advanced; I didnt finish it but I learned a lot of good thematic vocab from it. I didn't know Linguaphpone German Business existed but I've been looking for something like that, thanks for the mention!
By the way, did you title your log after Valerian Germanicus Maximus?


Glad to see that you found LL Adv worthwhile! You may want to check this thread: General Linguaphone Discussion.
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Re: German, also known as Valerian from the 1st Age.

Postby Skynet » Sat Oct 20, 2018 11:00 am

Melkor wrote:I am @Skynet's first convert to this forum! After months of being accosted and threatened with social sanctions, I have acquiesced to his demands and joined LLO. :lol:

Before I go any further, let me make it abundantly clear that I have at most 1/100th of a percentage point of the enthusiasm, energy and stamina that he has and must stress that I will not be using a billion resources to refine my German.


This is evidence that peer-pressure can be very constructive. :lol: When it comes to your allegations, I will plead the 5th Amendment. ;)

Welcome to the language learning family! :D
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