Re: PM's TAC 2015 crazy? French course mission
Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2015 6:25 am
We talk languages
Arnaud wrote:I'll just point two little problems I hear in your prononciation based on the 2 recordings you've posted.
- Sometimes you don't pronounce the R: L109: 1'.22'' and 1'50'': "o(r)ganisé des pots", "submergé pa(r) sa matinée".
- You pronounce or add a "e" muet at the end of the words: As I'm parisian and generally don't pronounce them, I can hear them immediatly as a deviation from the standard accent. You probably can't hear them, but I hear them clearly:
L109: 0,25'': Jean-Micheleu, 1,15'': chefe d'équipe (there are other occurrences in the two recordings)
There are other minors problems (and a certain rigidity in your prosody, the natives speakers are linking the words between them massively), but on the whole it's very good, everyday I hear people living and working in France who don't bother to have such a good accent (or even don't bother to speak french at all )
Mohave wrote:PM - Thanks so much for taking the time to describe how you have worked on your pronounciation - especially since you had to write all that twice!! It certainly is making me think about my approach on how I have done things regarding my accent. It was also good to see you obtained such a great accent through old-fashioned roll-up your sleeves work (and not just complete natural ability). I have not worked with IPA at all - and your post is making me re-consider that. Also, for FIA, I have the textbooks and have watched the videos on-line at Lerner.org, but have not used the workbooks or audio files - so I have not done the type of detail work you noted. So more food for thought!
I have started working with the FSI phonology course, and of course Pimsleur. I am trying to take more care lately to make sure my accent/song/rhythm is good. Also, as I mentioned a little bit ago in my log, my listening skills have seen a jump of late - which is helping me hear better when it is off. Frankly, I speak French like a typical anglophone, so thanks again for sharing your approach!
Your new study plan is awesome! Its awesome that you are starting to incorporate medical technology into your rotation! How far you have come along!
Thanks again and great job Monsieur PM!
rlnv wrote:Have you been hiding the usage of D'accord La Prononciation Du Français International Acquisition et Perfectionnemnet from us?
Arnaud wrote:Out of curiosity I've listened to a few lessons (the audio is available for free), and it's rather good and well explained concerning the position of the tongue, lips, mouth, etc, and the exercices are rather well thought and progressive.
The famous R is explained in the lesson 6, btw. aga, ara, aga, ara, come on guys
Meyers wrote:Hey PM,
I've been catching up on your log here, since it seems that this site is the future. Well done on your accent, my girlfriend had a listen and was very impressed (she just mentioned the 'ou' sounds didn't sound perfect). I hope to achieve something similar after a bit of blood, sweat and tears
Did you end up signing up for Netflix?