reineke wrote:Nah. He needs to do this. We need him to do this.PeterMollenburg wrote:You're referring to FSI/DLI language tables in the usual forum manner. The expected 600 study hours are with a native tutor in an intensive setting. You're forgetting a few hundred hours of homework.
No, I’m not. That’s why I allowed up to 1000 hours.
reineke wrote:Also, the expected result is a lot less spectacular: B2+ on the CEFR scale (Pearson estimate). Finally, the average FSI student already knows 2 languages.
These points are very much worth mentioning. They were in the back of my mind however when exhibiting frustration at around 6000 hours of study. In other words, surely I’ve allowed for all these variables and then some.
reineke wrote:"Pearson’s estimate of number of hours per increasing proficiency. Note that these are active learning hours, i.e., time explicitly devoted to learning the language, through instruction and exercises.
Total cumulative number of hours
A1 95 - 480
A2 190 - 770
B1 380 - 1386
B2 760 - 2495
C1 1520 - 4490*
Actual hours will depend on individual factors such as L1, motivation, intensity of study, etc."
Yes, and if we cut my hours out which weren’t instruction and exercises, then these numbers make a lot more sense, especially when intensity, motivation etc are factored in.
reineke wrote:You need to review your strategies. You would do well to find someone who would push you hard. Happy learning.
Indeed. I have reviewed my strategies literally on a daily basis. The issues are mainly:
1. lack of motivation or application due to various factors, some intrinsic (self sabotage, lack of focus) some extrinsic (kids for ex.).
2. not understanding the size of the task ahead of me (importantly this relates to lack of experience).
1+2= get on with the job
And I agree someone who would push me hard, would serve me well. I will try again for that someone to be me, but a tutor will also feature.
Thanks for your analysis reineke.