Lawyer&Mom, Less is More (French & German)

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Re: Lawyer&Mom, Less is More (French & German)

Postby DaveAgain » Wed Aug 28, 2019 8:36 am

Lawyer&Mom wrote:Was reading an easy French non-fiction book, an introduction to Ancient Greek history and culture aimed at middle school students. Nicely accessible reading level, cute cartoon pictures... something relaxing at the end of a long day. Their explanation of the Trojan war: Helene left Greece with her lover Paris, leaving behind her husband Agamemnon... Huh, what? C’est pas vrai!

Agamemnon was the high king who led the Greek army against Troy, but her husband was Menelaus. I feel betrayed by the French. I thought France took its connection to the Ancient World and the Academic Arts very seriously. How can I feel smug and superior about reading in French if they are just going to muck about with the basic facts like that? Who can I trust!?!

(I didn’t actually know about Menelaus until like three months ago, but we are *very* into Greek Myths at my house these days and I cannot recommend the Gareth Hinds graphic novels of the Odyssey and the Iliad highly enough. Once you’ve *seen* the characters, you will never confuse Agamemnon and Menelaus again, they have like totally different hair styles! (There are a lot of people in the Iliad. Visuals really do help you keep them all straight.))
Arte.tv are going to run an adaption of the illiad starting in September.

https://www.arte.tv/fr/videos/080116-00 ... ssee-1-20/
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Re: Lawyer&Mom, Less is More (French & German)

Postby Lawyer&Mom » Tue Sep 10, 2019 5:12 pm

My French is sort of drifting since I finished ER. I tried some new noir shows (The Chalet, Rain) on Netflix but soon lost interest. Too much “moody-mysterious-wind-blowing-through-the-dark-woods” and not enough actual talking! I’m kinda burnt out on TV anyway.

I’m somehow reading two German books. A somewhat paint-by-numbers police procedural by Inge Loehnig and another novel by Henning Menkell. I love Henning Menkell, his characters feel like real people, but the police procedural uses *lots* of vocabulary to really describe those crime scenes... and vocabulary is good for me.
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Re: Lawyer&Mom, Less is More (French & German)

Postby DaveAgain » Tue Sep 10, 2019 7:01 pm

Lawyer&Mom wrote:My French is sort of drifting since I finished ER. I tried some new noir shows (The Chalet, Rain) on Netflix but soon lost interest. Too much “moody-mysterious-wind-blowing-through-the-dark-woods” and not enough actual talking! I’m kinda burnt out on TV anyway.

I’m somehow reading two German books. A somewhat paint-by-numbers police procedural by Inge Loehnig and another novel by Henning Menkell. I love Henning Menkell, his characters feel like real people, but the police procedural uses *lots* of vocabulary to really describe those crime scenes... and vocabulary is good for me.
I read a french short story collection (Ursurpation d'identitie) earlier this year, by a writing team called Boileau Narcejac that I enjoyed, and learnt that a Danielle Darrieux film I liked, Meurtre à 45 tours, was adapted from their novel à coeur perdu.
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Re: Lawyer&Mom, Less is More (French & German)

Postby Cèid Donn » Tue Sep 10, 2019 8:01 pm

Lawyer&Mom wrote:My French is sort of drifting since I finished ER. I tried some new noir shows (The Chalet, Rain) on Netflix but soon lost interest. Too much “moody-mysterious-wind-blowing-through-the-dark-woods” and not enough actual talking! I’m kinda burnt out on TV anyway.


We need French telenovelas! One thing I like about Por Amar Sin Ley for my Spanish SC, or Ros na Rún for my Irish studies, is how those soap opera-type shows that don't have big budgets for special effects and fancy cinematography are more dialogue-heavy. Granted the dialogue is generally pretty mundane, but that's sort of the point. It's suppose to be easy viewing that doesn't really tax your brain cells very much. Well, if you already understand the language, that is. For learners, it's a little more challenging to keep up. :lol:

As an alternative to TV, I personally like French audio books (I'm a big fan of Radio-Canada'sfree audio books, but the range of book is bigger is you are willing to spend money, of course).
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Re: Lawyer&Mom, Less is More (French & German)

Postby Lawyer&Mom » Tue Sep 10, 2019 9:22 pm

Cèid Donn wrote:
Lawyer&Mom wrote:My French is sort of drifting since I finished ER. I tried some new noir shows (The Chalet, Rain) on Netflix but soon lost interest. Too much “moody-mysterious-wind-blowing-through-the-dark-woods” and not enough actual talking! I’m kinda burnt out on TV anyway.


We need French telenovelas! One thing I like about Por Amar Sin Ley for my Spanish SC, or Ros na Rún for my Irish studies, is how those soap opera-type shows that don't have big budgets for special effects and fancy cinematography are more dialogue-heavy. Granted the dialogue is generally pretty mundane, but that's sort of the point. It's suppose to be easy viewing that doesn't really tax your brain cells very much. Well, if you already understand the language, that is. For learners, it's a little more challenging to keep up. :lol:

As an alternative to TV, I personally like French audio books (I'm a big fan of Radio-Canada'sfree audio books, but the range of book is bigger is you are willing to spend money, of course).


I watched a lot of Verbotene Liebe back in the day! I’d totally watch something similar in French. Wish they weren’t so in love with the geo-blocking! (There is Generation Sitcoms...)

I’m actually watching Fait Pas Ci, Fait Pas Ça which is amazing, but there are less than 100 episodes, and I want to savor them!
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Re: Lawyer&Mom, Less is More (French & German)

Postby Lawyer&Mom » Mon Oct 07, 2019 9:44 pm

It’s been awhile.

My oldest started kindergarten and it was super stressful. For me. That’s the fun part of Autism. Transitions are super hard. Even eagerly awaited, super exciting transitions. But I survived the first month and so far, things are going well!

Two big language developments:

First, German school! Saturday mornings have 100% more structure since the oldest has started German school. I even spoke a bit of German for the first time in eons at the orientation. I wasn’t bad! Most of the parents are native speakers, and I’m clearly not, but who cares! We are on my turf, I never feel like I have something to prove when I’m in the States. (I even wore flip-flops! So American!)

Second, I have a Reader! The oldest learned all the letter sounds at two. And then didn’t read much of anything until last month. But now things are going swimmingly. I’ve embraced a real tadoku approach. A little bit of phonics and lots and lots of books. I get stacks from the library and we go through them quickly. I help with unknown sounds, we don’t try to memorize anything. Internalization will happen with mass exposure.

Watched a lot of TV in English. Can highly recommend Derry Girls, Fleabag and Schitt’s Creek to our more advanced English learners... Although subtitles with Derry Girls is fair play. We didn’t use them but I don’t think my husband understood much of anything! (My years in London makes all the insular accents much more accessible.)

Watched some Florence Foresti. She’s a remarkable French stand-up comedienne. I understand maybe half, but she’s so physically expressive, it’s still funny. And she’s making jokes about being a mom, and raising kids and I’m so definitely the target audience. Stand-up is pretty great for just non-stop talking. I think there will be more in my future.
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Re: Lawyer&Mom, Less is More (French & German)

Postby aokoye » Tue Oct 08, 2019 4:52 pm

Congrats on getting your oldest off to kindergarten! I'm not a parent, but from everything I've heard from my friends who are I essentially associate it with stress. My best friend's daughter just started kindergarten last month as well and this week will mark the first week that I start picking her up every third Friday (now that I'm on multiple lists with the school's office). Her daughter goes to a French immersion charter school and she and her brother (who is 3) are all about reading. I've already quizzed the older on what French books they already have so I can figure out what not to buy ;) (Their moms are very pleased that I'm willing to buy French books to read to them).
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Re: Lawyer&Mom, Less is More (French & German)

Postby Lawyer&Mom » Tue Nov 19, 2019 6:41 pm

I’ve been slacking on languages, but I’m very caught up on my English TV comedies. Derry Girls! Fleabag! Crazy Ex-Girlfriend! Schitts Creek! The next thing on my list is The Crown, which I will watch in French. Back on the French bandwagon!

I finally figured out how to use the list feature on Twitter, and made myself French and German feeds to follow. Any recommendations for excellent French or German tweeters are welcome!
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