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Re: Morgana's Swedish & Icelandic log

Postby StringerBell » Sat Nov 03, 2018 11:08 pm

Morgana wrote:I’m craving an easy ride and this language is not it.


I think the concept of an "easy language" is like a desert mirage. I was thinking that Italian would be my easy ride, but it's proving to be a formidable foe. Either that, or I just suck :lol:
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Re: Morgana's Swedish & Icelandic log

Postby Neurotip » Sat Nov 03, 2018 11:54 pm

Morgana wrote:...I also appreciate hearing the specifics of what non-SRSing forumers do because it’s reassuring

I read it all too :)

Well, I might put a bit about this in my next post on my own log, but since I'm in the relatively small category of non-SRSing Icelearners: 90% of the stuff I've been using for the last couple of months has been VLÍ and native material (films, reddit, occasional news articles), and while I'm not sure my passive vocabulary has improved that much, my *familiarity* with the words definitely has, and so has my speed at understanding the structure of a sentence and spotting case, tense, etc. Curiously my active vocabulary (i.e. ability to find words on the fly) seems to have improved significantly too, not sure how that's happened. I do wonder whether there's any hope of acquiring enough vocab without SRSing, but then I have to remind myself that I've never SRS'ed in any of my other languages :) My approach to actually learning new words is essentially the same as zjones's.

Thanks for sharing your experiences - always fun to read and don't be too hard on yourself!
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Re: Morgana's Swedish & Icelandic log

Postby smallwhite » Sun Nov 04, 2018 2:39 am

> If I’ve understood smallwhite’s approach right, she reads the course book(s) like a trashy romance novel (my editorializing, forgive me smallwhite) and gets right to native stuff to mine vocabulary.

Thanks for the mention. Your description is half right. In Ani's log I described how I read through grammars (and courses) paying attention to the examples and that's about it (https://forum.language-learners.org/vie ... ite#p76723). But I read three or four of them (or the same one or two twice) and end up knowing them fairly well.
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Re: Morgana's Swedish & Icelandic log

Postby Neurotip » Sun Nov 04, 2018 9:16 am

Morgana wrote:Also iirc you've kind of sort of done Icelandic without a course? You did Alaric's course but apart from that you've been bravely forging your own path.

Hmmm, I'd say lazily rather than bravely - otherwise correct!
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Re: Morgana's Swedish & Icelandic log

Postby aaleks » Sun Nov 04, 2018 1:22 pm

Since I've written many times how I learn (have learned) English words there's no point in repeating it again. Besides it is pretty close to what zjones wrote. But if you are interested in how big one's vocab might be without SRS and the like, you can test your English vocabulary http://testyourvocab.com/ and compare your score to mine - usually my score is 21.000 or so :) .
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Re: Morgana's Swedish & Icelandic log

Postby SGP » Tue Nov 06, 2018 6:13 am

Morgana wrote:But I've noticed in Swedish with the verb hända, when something happens to someone, they don't have a preposition between verb and object. (Correct me if I've got that wrong but I'm pretty sure that's what I've been noticing in my reading.)


Some real-world usage examples :) (this is more about the language and less about the example's specific content):

"Nej, det är nåt annat än det som hände mig."

"Tänk om det som hände mamma, händer mig?"

"Om det inte hade hänt mig, hade det säkert hänt nån annan."

But also:

"Vad som händer med dig det händer med mig"

"Jag måste veta vad som hände med den här mannen, och jag måste veta vad som hände med honom nu!"
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