Neurotip's log: Italian and Icelandic, i.a.

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Re: Neurotip's log: Italian and Icelandic, i.a.

Postby Neurotip » Sat Feb 17, 2018 5:14 pm

Hi Soffia! Thanks very much. I agree, eighty quid for a slight improvement on the free online version does seem a bit extravagant, but ordabok.is sounds like a good bet. I'm assuming "Einstaklings­áskrift í 12 mán. 990 kr." means "individual subscription 12 months for 990 kr.", if so I'll give it a go (although what is 'heimilisáskrift' then? 'home subscription'...?) Hopefully I won't need a kennitala... although the concept of creating an Icelandic alter ego for myself quite appeals :D

By the way I've been reading through your log for Icelandic tips, with the result that you are now my Isl-learning role model! Use your new-found power with care.
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Re: Neurotip's log: Italian and Icelandic, i.a.

Postby Josquin » Sat Feb 17, 2018 8:50 pm

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dampingwire wrote:That link points to an episode presented by Fabio Fiori. I've never heard of him before but he sounds perfectly normal to me. Then again the 'net says he was born in Rimini which is not that far from where my father comes, so that might account for it. It's not a lisp.

Fair enough. I've just had another listen and the first couple of occasions are where he says: 'Lost at sea - Disperso in mare - si legge...' and a few seconds later 'milleottocentonovantacinque'. In the first case it sounds to me like 'leddze' and in the second case 'ottozento ... zinque' (with unvoiced z). Is it just something people sometimes do, or regional, or just him - or is it me?

That's a typical feature of Venetian dialect, as far as I know, but I'm not an expert on Italian.
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Re: Neurotip's log: Italian and Icelandic, i.a.

Postby Neurotip » Sat Feb 17, 2018 9:38 pm

Neurotip wrote:I'm assuming "Einstaklings­áskrift í 12 mán. 990 kr." means "individual subscription 12 months for 990 kr.", if so I'll give it a go (although what is 'heimilisáskrift' then? 'home subscription'...?)


Ah. A few lines further down it says 'Fyrir heimili og lítil fyrirtæki, 3 tölvur.' Ég skil það nú! Mér finnst það mjög skemmtilegur þegar ég skil eitthvað frá byrjun til enda, þó það er bara sjö orð :)
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Re: Neurotip's log: Italian and Icelandic, i.a.

Postby tarvos » Sat Feb 17, 2018 10:07 pm

Íslenska! Svo gaman að heyra að folk hér lær sig islensku.
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Re: Neurotip's log: Italian and Icelandic, i.a.

Postby dampingwire » Sat Feb 17, 2018 11:24 pm

Neurotip wrote:Fair enough. I've just had another listen and the first couple of occasions are where he says: 'Lost at sea - Disperso in mare - si legge...' and a few seconds later 'milleottocentonovantacinque'. In the first case it sounds to me like 'leddze' and in the second case 'ottozento ... zinque' (with unvoiced z). Is it just something people sometimes do, or regional, or just him - or is it me?


I've re-listened to the very beginning half a dozen times and it sounds like "legge" and "milleottocentonovantacinque" and "milleottocentonovantotto" to me.
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Re: Neurotip's log: Italian and Icelandic, i.a.

Postby Neurotip » Sat Feb 17, 2018 11:33 pm

dampingwire wrote:I've re-listened to the very beginning half a dozen times and it sounds like "legge" and "milleottocentonovantacinque" and "milleottocentonovantotto" to me.

Thank you - it's really useful to know this sort of thing, it's very hard to look up! Much appreciated.
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Re: Neurotip's log: Italian and Icelandic, i.a.

Postby reineke » Sun Feb 18, 2018 5:15 am

I hear it too.

Fabio Fiori Verso il mare aperto

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDC8r9i2MgY

In alcune varietà d’italiano si osservano specifiche realizzazioni delle affricate. Nell’Italia del nord, ad es. in Friuli, Trentino o Emilia-Romagna, si individua una realizzazione dentale, o anche interdentale, dell’affricata alveolare sorda (per es., /ˈpret̪⊓s⊓ ̪o/ o /ˈprɛtθo/); in alcune varietà settentrionali, l’alveolare sorda può anche essere realizzata come fricativa alveolare apicale [s⊓̺] (ad es., /paˈ[s⊓̺]ien[s⊓̺]a/ «pazienza») e l’articolazione delle affricate postalveolari può essere avanzata sino a confondersi con quella delle alveolari (per es., /ˈʦena/ «cena»).

http://www.treccani.it/enciclopedia/aff ... aliano%29/

Maybe someone else will opine as well.

Your reading sample was a bit choppy but otherwise very good. The only word I noticed to be considerably off was "ansia".
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Re: Neurotip's log: Italian and Icelandic, i.a.

Postby Neurotip » Thu Feb 22, 2018 11:01 pm

tarvos wrote:Íslenska! Svo gaman að heyra að folk hér lær sig islensku.

Hæ tarvos! Það er líka mjög gott þegar fólk talar (eða skrifar) íslensku hér með mér, takk fyrir og velkomin til litla logg-ins míns. :D (veit ekki hvort 'logg' sé islenskt orð... geturðu sagt mér hvernig maður segir það?)
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Re: Neurotip's log: Italian and Icelandic, i.a.

Postby tarvos » Fri Feb 23, 2018 8:07 am

Ég veit það ekki heldur.
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Re: Neurotip's log: Italian and Icelandic, i.a.

Postby Neurotip » Fri Feb 23, 2018 6:29 pm

tarvos wrote:Ég veit það ekki heldur.

OK, ég hef horft á ordabok.is og ég held að rétta orðið sé 'skrá'. Sem sagt: velkomin til skrárinnar minnar!
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