Elsa Maria's Log: Danish + (PT, LA, NL, NO)

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Re: Elsa Maria's Log: Danish +

Postby Elsa Maria » Sat Sep 07, 2019 3:19 pm

DANISH

I finally remembered to log my August results for the 365 Day Challenge. How did it get to be the 7th of September already?!

I stopped daily reporting about my 365 Day challenge, because I have been having trouble keeping up with my online life. I also have some forum posts that I want to respond to.

Most of my 365 Day Challenge activity involves reading. I am finished with the audiobook Anne Franks Dagbog, but not finished with the printed book. I got very out of sync.

I am 90 percent done with Den, Der Lever Stille, and I feel quite accomplished with this book. It is 374 pages long, and I followed the story really well but rarely looked anything up. With relative ease, I read a long novel that has not been translated into English. Wow, that feels really good.

I have also started back up with a Skype tutor. I worked with her a long time ago, and I'm really excited to work with her again. But, in order to really get my money's worth out of each session, I need to prepare better.

DUTCH

At long last, I have begun the Assimil course, and have returned to studying Dutch with more enthusiasm.
I registered late for the 6WC, and I have done a lousy job tracking my time on the Twitter bot. However, this has more to do with me ignoring my online life than it has to do with my time spent on languages. I've actually done rather well with putting in the time.

LATIN

My class starts on September 16, and I am now putting in about 30 minutes each weekday on Latin. I had not touched Latin all summer, which was intentional but of course I now regret it, lol.
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Re: Elsa Maria's Log: Danish + (LA, NL)

Postby Elsa Maria » Thu Sep 19, 2019 3:21 pm

I have booked a November trip to both the Netherlands and Denmark. I will spend approximately a week in the NL, and ten days in Denmark.

I am now full speed ahead on both Dutch and Danish, with just enough Latin to keep up with my class.

All wanderlust is officially shelved until my trip is complete :)
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Re: Elsa Maria's Log: Danish + (LA,NL)

Postby PeterMollenburg » Fri Sep 20, 2019 1:47 am

Hi Elsa Maria,

How are you finding the Dutch Assimil course? (I will use it some day, perhaps next year I will get to it)
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Re: Elsa Maria's Log: Danish + (LA,NL)

Postby Elsa Maria » Mon Sep 23, 2019 3:53 pm

PeterMollenburg wrote:Hi Elsa Maria,

How are you finding the Dutch Assimil course? (I will use it some day, perhaps next year I will get to it)

For me, Assimil is getting the job done. It is filling in some gaps and making my Dutch feel less hodgepodge.

I don’t use it as prescribed. I suspect that my time spent on many years of homeschooling has left me incapable of using ANY curriculum without making adjustments.

Also, it is only one track in my multi-track routine so my pace is slow.
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Re: Elsa Maria's Log: Danish + (LA, NL)

Postby Elsa Maria » Wed Oct 02, 2019 7:14 pm

Elsa Maria wrote:I am now full speed ahead on both Dutch and Danish, with just enough Latin to keep up with my class.


Quoted myself. Hmm, just enough Latin to keep up with my class is turning out to be more than I had bargained for. And I am not really keen on the class itself at the moment. It really doesn't suit me and the way I like to do things. If I quit, I am only out $50. But I might also lose the chance to take the National Latin Exam in the spring.

I think I would really like to just go back to Lingua Latina on my own. I always struggle through the process of "quitting" things, though.
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Re: Elsa Maria's Log: Danish + (LA, NL)

Postby StringerBell » Wed Oct 02, 2019 7:38 pm

Elsa Maria wrote:If I quit, I am only out $50.


Even if you don't quit, you're still out $50, right? So either way, the money is spent.

Is taking this class a requirement for taking the National Latin exam? If so, how important is the exam to you? Will taking the exam open doors to do other things you want, or do you just want to take the exam to see how you'd do?
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Re: Elsa Maria's Log: Danish + (LA,NL)

Postby Elsa Maria » Wed Oct 02, 2019 10:21 pm

StringerBell wrote:Even if you don't quit, you're still out $50, right? So either way, the money is spent.

True enough, and thanks for the reframing.

With regard to the exam, it is just a fun thing. I don't think an individual can sign up to take it, but I would have to look into that to be 100 percent sure because I seem to recall that homeschool kids could take it as individuals. I am fuzzy on the details - my son was enrolled in a Latin class when he took the NLE.

Eligibility note from the website:
Students who are enrolled in Latin or have completed a Latin course during the current academic year

Although I am not sure that I care enough to pursue it.
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Re: Elsa Maria's Log: Danish + (LA,NL)

Postby Elsa Maria » Mon Oct 14, 2019 1:47 am

LATIN
I have decided to continue forward with my Latin class. I spent the weekend getting caught up, and I am ready for this week's assignments.

Here is why I decided to stay in the class:

I am tired of being a false beginner in Latin.

This Latin sequence will, in due time, get me where I want to be. And yet it is, in fact, a very laid-back class. I think I was stressing myself out for no good reason.

Because Latin is the lowest priority of the three languages I am currently working on, I would end up not doing any Latin at all if I dropped the class.

DANISH
I finished another novel, De Nærmeste by Lotte Kirkeby. It was a better-than-average family drama. I had no trouble reading it without looking anything up, but since I read it on my Kindle I did highlight some things to go back and look up. I also highlighted a few sentences that confused me, and I will ask my tutor about those.

I found a series on DRTV that I am excited about: Øgendahl og de storre forfatter. Each 30 minute episode is about a famous Danish author.I think its target audience is Danes who don't actually read much literature but want familiarity with the big names, which makes it a great show for a learner whose top goal is to read the literature. It is rather lightweight in both content and style, which is fine for me. So far, I have watched the episodes about H.C. Andersen and Tove Ditlevsen. I have already read a lot of H.C. Andersen and I really want to read Tove Ditlevsen's books. Next up is Dan Turell, whom I know nothing about.

DUTCH
This has been getting the least attention. I admit that I have to force myself to do Assimil.
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Re: Elsa Maria's Log: Danish + (LA,NL,PT)

Postby Elsa Maria » Thu Oct 31, 2019 2:43 pm

I will soon be spending three weeks in Denmark / Netherlands. I have about ten days in each location.

I think that my Danish is much better than the last time I was there - three years ago.
I think that my Dutch is only slightly better than the last time I was there - 10 months ago.
It will be great to find out!

Meanwhile, I registered for the 6WC with Portuguese. I wanted to choose an absolute-beginner-language for the challenge, and I will focus on European Portuguese. A few months ago, I made an impulse buy of the Linguaphone course. I'll start with that. And I think I have a few units of Pimsleur that I got from Audible.

I only expect to have good scores in the Total Score column, since I will be spending half of the six weeks in other TL countries.
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Re: Elsa Maria's Log: Danish + (LA,NL,PT)

Postby Elsa Maria » Sat Nov 30, 2019 3:32 pm

Well, I was right about my assessment of both my Danish and my Dutch - see previous post.

DANISH

I spent ten continuous days in Denmark. I spoke a lot of English the first two days. It took some time for me to warm up and to build up my confidence. But every day, the percentage shifted toward more Danish, less English. The breakthrough came when I went to a cafe with two friends (native Danish speakers) and we spoke only Danish for two hours. After that, I used very little English.

I was in the midst of families and groups of friends (all native speakers), and my comprehension was pretty high. But I had to stay focused 100 percent. One brief lapse in concentration, and I was OUT. I did get lost at times when the conversations turned to politics, religion, or literature.

I understood the snatches of conversation that I heard on the street or while on transport.

I made a lot of speaking mistakes. I often knew my mistake as soon as I made it. I asked one of my closest friends for an honest assessment of my mistakes, and nothing that she told me was a surprise.

My confidence in Danish was really bolstered by this trip. I am not a C-level speaker, but I do believe that becoming one is within my reach.

Oh, and I will never again take it personally if someone switches to English on me. At least not in the tourist spots. While we were in the touristy parts of Copenhagen, people occasionally switched to English when talking with my born-and-raised-in-Copenhagen friend.

I'll give a shout-out to the 365 Day challenge. I have a perfect score thus far, and I do believe it has made a big difference.

DUTCH

I can order food and manage simple transactions. I can catch bits of random conversations. I did OK with train announcements. Suffice it to say, my level remains very low.

I have been trying to force myself through Assimil, and I don't like it. Which means that I avoid it. I was enjoying Dutch a lot more when I was working through the learndutch.org materials and going to classes. My subscription ran out at learndutch.org, and I will force myself to get through Assimil before I let myself buy the subscription again. And I will read. I have a sizeable stack of children's books to read, and I'm going to work my way through them in order of difficulty.

I plan to return to the Netherlands again in May. I'd like to see how much I can improve between now and then.

LATIN

I kept up with my assignments while I was away. I cut the relevant pages out of my textbook and took them along. The book would have been too bulky to take.

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This is my 6WC language. I really only started to give it attention this week. I tried the Linguaphone course, but I can't tolerate it while also doing Assimil Dutch. Blech. After I finish the Assimil Dutch, I can try Linguaphone. For now, I am using Pimsleur and I just took a subscription to Practice Portuguese. I'll try Practice Portuguese for a month and see how that goes.
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