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Re: An Opsimath's Log: Danish, Dutch & Latin

Postby Elsa Maria » Sat Jan 26, 2019 2:51 am

Thanks to LunaMoonSilver, I discovered the 24in48 read-a-thon that is happening this weekend. The idea is to log 24 hours of reading over 48 hours. I won't get nearly that much reading done this weekend, but I am going to play anyway :)

I plan to read in English, Danish, Latin, and Dutch.
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Re: Elsa Maria's Log: Danish, Dutch & Latin

Postby Elsa Maria » Mon Jan 28, 2019 3:51 pm

The idea behind the 24in48 readathon is to read for 24 hours out of 48. Audiobooks do count. Reading Rockstars like LunaMoonsilver actually reach that target :)

Even though I finished the 24in48 readathon with only 9 hours and 46 minutes, I consider it a win. It was fun and interesting, and I read more than I would have.

Here is the recap:

I used ATracker to keep track of my time. I've been using ATracker consistently since January 1 for the 365 day challenge, so all I had to do to get started was add an English reading task. Most of the participants used the stopwatch on their phone to keep track of their total. I started out doing that, but I kept forgetting about it and decided to just use ATracker.

Saturday's total was 4 hours and 17 minutes. Considering that I had a two hour Dutch class in the morning, and a Big Social Event in the evening, I was quite happy with this number.

Sunday's total was 5 hours and 29 minutes. Considering that I had a lot more free time on Sunday than on Saturday, this number is somewhat disappointing. But I prefer to be nice to myself whenever possible, so my 5 hours and 29 minutes are just fine!

My totals were:

70% English
13% Danish
10% Dutch
7% Latin

Here is what I from in my TLs:

Danish:
A new-to-me H.C. Andersen story and Anne Franks Dagbog
This is the right level for me. There are new words, but not too many.

Dutch:

These are all books that Dutch-speaking children would use when learning to read, and I bought them on my recent trip to NL.
Het grote zelfleesbook
Het Woordenboek van Vos en Haas
Two Jip en Janneke stories

This was my first time trying trying to actually native materials in Dutch, and it was difficult but very satisfying.

Latin:
Lingua Latina Cap. I, II, and II (easy rereads, but good prep for the NLE)

Oh, and I got tired of my log being called "An Opsimath's Log" so now it is simply "Elsa Maria's Log" unless I think of something else :)
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Re: An Opsimath's Log: Danish, Dutch & Latin

Postby jeff_lindqvist » Mon Jan 28, 2019 4:21 pm

Elsa Maria wrote:The idea behind the 24in48 readathon is to read for 24 hours out of 48. Audiobooks do count. Reading Rockstars like LunaMoonsilver actually reach that target :)


Give me action-packed novels from authors like Dan Brown, Roger Hobbs and Gregg Hurwitz, and I'm up for the challenge (whenever next one is). I wonder if they're all available in German (or Spanish)... and if so, how much my reading speed will improve along the way. (It's not as high as in Swedish/English yet.)

If reading speed is something that you're aware of, did you happen to notice any major changes during the weekend?

I'm convinced it correlates very much to the level in the language - and possibly it goes both ways.

High level → high(er) reading skills, and high reading skills → high level in the language. Any ideas?
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Re: Elsa Maria's Log: Danish, Dutch & Latin

Postby Elsa Maria » Mon Jan 28, 2019 4:48 pm

jeff_lindqvist wrote:
Elsa Maria wrote:The idea behind the 24in48 readathon is to read for 24 hours out of 48. Audiobooks do count. Reading Rockstars like LunaMoonsilver actually reach that target :)


Give me action-packed novels from authors like Dan Brown, Roger Hobbs and Gregg Hurwitz, and I'm up for the challenge (whenever next one is). I wonder if they're all available in German (or Spanish)... and if so, how much my reading speed will improve along the way. (It's not as high as in Swedish/English yet.)

If reading speed is something that you're aware of, did you happen to notice any major changes during the weekend?

I'm convinced it correlated very much to the level in the language - and possibly it goes both ways.

High level → high(er) reading skills, and high reading skills → high level in the language. Any ideas?

Well, reading speed was a problem by Sunday night, no matter the language. My eyes were tired, and my focus was off :)

Even the simplest stories in Dutch are extraordinarily difficult at the moment. And my coursework can only do so much to prepare me for reading fiction. My coursework wants me to be able to introduce myself, talk about my family, and be able to find an apartment.

I keep in mind how I helped my kids learn to read - by continually but gradually increasing the level of difficulty and by gradually building stamina.
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Re: Elsa Maria's Log: Danish, Dutch & Latin

Postby IronMike » Mon Jan 28, 2019 4:59 pm

I almost did this 24in48 thing this weekend, but was distracted by personal family things. I will put this on my calendar for the July 20-21 iteration.
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Re: Elsa Maria's Log: Danish, Dutch & Latin

Postby Elsa Maria » Fri Feb 01, 2019 5:34 pm

January Wrap-Up:

365 Day Challenge:
31 days Danish
31 days Dutch
Yay!

There were a few days that the challenge felt like a burden, but not too many. I wish I were doing as well with my non-language 2019 ideas, so in those domains I am considering Feb 1 to be the new Jan 1 :)

Here is what January looked like for me:

I consistently used ATracker to collect my data. And stripping out the English reading that I tracked for the 24in48 Read-a-Thon, the total for January was 68h26min. I'll try to post details later.
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Re: Elsa Maria's Log: Danish, Dutch & Latin

Postby Elsa Maria » Sun Feb 03, 2019 5:53 pm

So this is what ATracker tells me that I did in January:

Dutch

Coursework 6h52min
That is going to class and completing homework.

Listening 18h16min
Pimsleur 20(?) lessons
One week in NL

Reading 2h35min
Het Grote zelfleesboek
Jip en Janneke

Grammar 2h8min
I am using learndutch.org and I like it a lot.

Speaking 1h 13 min
While in NL

Writing 0h48min
Copywork
Making an island

Vocab Study 1h31min

Latin
Coursework 9h10min
Online Class plus homework

NLE prep 0h41min
practice tests

Misc 2h38min

Danish
Writing 0h23min

Reading 9h34min
Anne Franks Dagbog

Vocab Study 2h12min

Listening 9h47min
Season 1 of Rita
1st Harry Potter film

Russian 0h32 min
Spanish 0h06 min

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My only real, but not surprising, disappointment is Danish Writing.
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Re: Elsa Maria's Log: Danish, Dutch & Latin

Postby Elsa Maria » Sun Feb 17, 2019 5:20 pm

Yesterday was one of those A+ language learning days:

2 hours of Dutch class.
I know a lot of people here dislike classes, but I enjoy a good class. It satisfies the extrovert in me, and I love having a native speaker available for questions.

Danish book club. Love my book club. Nothing is better than discussing books with friends.
2.5 hours of listening to Danish and speaking it.

In between those two events, I had about an hour to kill. I went to a cafe and studied for the National Latin Exam.

Today, I will probably do the bare minimum to maintain my 365-day challenge streak :)

Speaking of streaks and challenges, here is how it is going for me:

365 Day Challenge for Dutch and Danish. Perfect score so far! I can't believe it, really. Streaks on apps are meaningless to me, and I never care if I lose them. This is different. I think it is because it is in line with my homeschool philosophy: there will be good days and there will be bad days, but if we show up ready to work day after day after day we will get where we need to be.

6WC (Dutch): I seem to usually occupy a spot around #17, and I have been in the top 10 at times. That has been unexpected.

Short story challenge (Danish): I have read two short stories. I don't know if that counts as success or not. I haven't written about them on the challenge thread, and I want to do that.

Output Challenge (Danish). Maybe I should drop out, but I'm not ready to do that. I have written hardly anything, but hey, it is only February. I wrote two teeny tiny emails this week, and they took me forever. But the word count is certainly unimpressive. I have to rethink this.

What's working?

Most of my challenges. See above.
ATracker. I have a solid habit now of using it, and I have tweaked it to get the reports in a format that is meaningful to me. My only complaint is that it is a battery hog.

I am watching a Danish TV show that I love: Rita. I can't wait to see the next episode, and I think I will enjoy rewatching episodes/scenes. Which I definitely need to do. All that slang!

What's not working?

Output in Danish. With the exception of yesterday, I have hardly any recent output. And it showed in my speaking ability yesterday. I think I will book some italki lessons. I wonder if LEs are possible with Danish. There are not typically many Danes who need to practice English. But I only need ONE, so maybe I should look into it before I decide it is impossible, right?

This week, I will really truly focus on writing in Danish.

I don't have the right balance between language learning and other things that I like to do.

What's holding me back?

I am still sticking Danish words in Dutch sentences. Grrr.

Decision fatigue? Too many resources? Maybe.
Too many languages? Maybe. But I won't drop Danish, Dutch or Latin. I want to participate in the new FLC, but that might put me over the edge. If I keep my expectations in check, I might do it. I have until March to decide!
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Re: Elsa Maria's Log: Danish, Dutch & Latin

Postby avalon » Sun Feb 17, 2019 8:38 pm

Speaking of the National Latin Exam, did you ever see my offer to you at the bottom of page four?
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Re: Elsa Maria's Log: Danish, Dutch & Latin

Postby Elsa Maria » Sun Feb 17, 2019 9:19 pm

avalon wrote:Speaking of the National Latin Exam, did you ever see my offer to you at the bottom of page four?

Oh, goodness. I am so sorry for not responding to that - how embarrassing. :oops:

I took your advice and started with the most recent exams and have worked backward - excellent advice!
At this point, I think I am fine without additional materials, but thank you for your kind offer.

I have now taken the first half of all of the previously released exams to see how I would do with the cultural questions. There really is no history in the Intro Level, and the geography is simple as can be. I have studied the 12 major Olympiads, and I already knew all of the mottos and derivatives. Thanks to homeschooling, I had some other materials already on hand, and that took care of stuff like clothing and the house. Now I just have to iron out a bit of the Latin itself, and then I think I will be just fine. While I would like a perfect paper, I will settle for getting a medal and 100% of the actual Latin questions correct :)

ETA: Oh, and at this point I cannot stand the Cambridge textbook.
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