Closing the forum and all other tempting websites till tomorrow. I am considering that Habitica extension that would punish me for dwelling here for too long and give me exp and gold for elearning. Too much trouble setting it up, I'll do it next time.
If I fail tomorrow, I'm gonna have some more problems. If I pass, one less problem on my plate and I'll share a funny procrastination confession with you. So, wish me luck
Btw, I feel like I should censor all my logs, as smallwhite has recently pointed to all of them in the French C1/C2 group. I'm almost afraid for you all reading that, finding lots of complaining, failures, and similar stuff there. But yes, you can pick some good advice there too, at least if you're into French fantasy But really, I should be more careful in future.
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I failed the exam, I'll retake it in a few weeks. One of my topics was very good, something I spent a lot of time with in France. The other was something I haven't even seen and my brain froze. The examiner was very kind. This is it, this department and these people. Treating students like people, really trying to teach us and to help us learn, not trying to punish us for choosing medicine. Helpful, organising stuff FOR students and not against us. Why can't the whole faculty be like that? Why do these people have to be exceptions?
However, I am making a few huge changes in my routine for the "summer" (The weather is horrible now. It was hot while I had to be closed in the study room a lot, now it is getting worse and it is likely to stay that way for some time. It's raining and really cold.). The reason is simple. I cannot carry on this way, both my body and mind are not taking it well. Fortunately, I finally have time for it. From today on, till the end of September
1.More leisure pace for my studies. I finally have time, no need to cram. It's time to really learn it, and prepare myself for the hellish year to come.
2.More sleep. Really. How about trying regular seven hours a day? That might be a good idea.
3.Languages. With less cramming, I have more time for fun like that and I actually need it. I know it is not rare among medicine students, but it starts to worry me to see my normal life listed among "symptoms" or "risk factors" in various textbooks.
More fun (including languages), more sleep, less sugar, more social life, more cooking my own meals, more studying. I am lucky I don't have to take a summer job. I even couldn't right now. This is a much needed time to catch up with my studies and health.
I am trying to incorporate Anki into my medicine studies. It is great but I really have a problem sticking to SRS. Perhaps the Habitica-Anki connection could solve that. I have installed a Habitica Firefox addon and it seems to be working fine for me.
Btw Tatoeba is back online, if someone wondered and haven't noticed. Lang8 is still not taking new registrations. And I chose not to waste money on any language tutoring for now. The fact I don't have to take a summer job doesn't mean I am a millionaire, and I have to use my "studying" and "fun" budgets on other stuff now.
However, I am making a few huge changes in my routine for the "summer" (The weather is horrible now. It was hot while I had to be closed in the study room a lot, now it is getting worse and it is likely to stay that way for some time. It's raining and really cold.). The reason is simple. I cannot carry on this way, both my body and mind are not taking it well. Fortunately, I finally have time for it. From today on, till the end of September
1.More leisure pace for my studies. I finally have time, no need to cram. It's time to really learn it, and prepare myself for the hellish year to come.
2.More sleep. Really. How about trying regular seven hours a day? That might be a good idea.
3.Languages. With less cramming, I have more time for fun like that and I actually need it. I know it is not rare among medicine students, but it starts to worry me to see my normal life listed among "symptoms" or "risk factors" in various textbooks.
More fun (including languages), more sleep, less sugar, more social life, more cooking my own meals, more studying. I am lucky I don't have to take a summer job. I even couldn't right now. This is a much needed time to catch up with my studies and health.
I am trying to incorporate Anki into my medicine studies. It is great but I really have a problem sticking to SRS. Perhaps the Habitica-Anki connection could solve that. I have installed a Habitica Firefox addon and it seems to be working fine for me.
Btw Tatoeba is back online, if someone wondered and haven't noticed. Lang8 is still not taking new registrations. And I chose not to waste money on any language tutoring for now. The fact I don't have to take a summer job doesn't mean I am a millionaire, and I have to use my "studying" and "fun" budgets on other stuff now.
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I'm very sorry about your exam - that's always hard. But it sounds like you are being really sensible about the summer, trying to balance your goals with your health. Sleep and leisure sound like very good things. Good luck with it all - we are all rooting for you.
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Condolences on your exam - glad you get another shot at it.
Sounds like you've got a good plan to work on some self-care as well. Wishing you the best!
Sounds like you've got a good plan to work on some self-care as well. Wishing you the best!
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That's too bad, but at least you get to take it again. It's good that you'll be able to slow down a little this summer and get some sleep and proper food. It's probably also a good thing that the latest forum craze is Czech so you won't be tempted into any crazy projects in the near future.
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Thank you all for your support. I appreciate it.
You know, it is not that hard that I failed this exam in particular (the one in September will be much worse and my studies will depend on it). I am glad I have the opportunity to really learn this stuff during the next week and half, instead of just barely crawling across the minimum requirements, and the examiner was very kind and encouraged me to further study and that this failed attempt didn't mean I couldn't do exactly this as my specialisation later on.
That's it. It is ok to fail in a meaningful way. It is ok, when the examiner takes this as an opportunity to give some tips on how to prepare better for the next time, or to simply encourage the student. Or at least when they are professional, fair, and polite. It is not ok, when the examiner is an egomaniacal moron who enjoys to humiliate students for pointless reasons and has been doing so for forty years. There are many such individuals at my faculty.
I am behind my studies, as I had a really bad migraine yesterday. One of the whole day events. So, today I am getting back to it all. My medicine studies + Spanish for an easy start.
You know, it is not that hard that I failed this exam in particular (the one in September will be much worse and my studies will depend on it). I am glad I have the opportunity to really learn this stuff during the next week and half, instead of just barely crawling across the minimum requirements, and the examiner was very kind and encouraged me to further study and that this failed attempt didn't mean I couldn't do exactly this as my specialisation later on.
That's it. It is ok to fail in a meaningful way. It is ok, when the examiner takes this as an opportunity to give some tips on how to prepare better for the next time, or to simply encourage the student. Or at least when they are professional, fair, and polite. It is not ok, when the examiner is an egomaniacal moron who enjoys to humiliate students for pointless reasons and has been doing so for forty years. There are many such individuals at my faculty.
I am behind my studies, as I had a really bad migraine yesterday. One of the whole day events. So, today I am getting back to it all. My medicine studies + Spanish for an easy start.
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Let me just leave my favourite Japanese motivational video here We're all cheering you on!
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Awesome motivational video. Btw I am considering starting a thread with motivational quotes.
My "progress" is extremely slow. I have a streak in Clozemaster De-En though!!! Several days! That is unusual for me. More studying from next week on, there is an exam on Tuesday.
I looked up some Russian books, for my Rdearman's study participation. I can somewhat read Russian but I cannot write it. So, the method is wikipedia language switching, Ctrl+C, Ctrl+V, and then googling. I think it shouldn't be much of a problem to find stuff for me.
Cyrillic reading is an interesting experience for me. I suppose the reading learning stage I am at is similar to that of children learning to read. I read slowly, I know some of the letters better, some need more remembering, the reconstruction of each word in my mind takes a moment, I am sometimes not sure and have to guess. I don't have this experience with the latin alphabet. As a small girl, I used to ask "what is written there?" like other children. One day, when I was four, I simply started to read well, the puzzle clicked together. I don't remember that day in particular (my mum does), but I remember happy moments with books from then on. And I remember people who were finding it more probable that I would have had memorized something (such as a restaurant menu) than that I would have read it, and with the bottom of the page up. Weird
This is one of the reasons why I love reading, I got an early start without any trouble, I could simply dive into the wonderful world of books and have fun. But it is also one of the reasons why I am bad at studying. Most kids start learning how to learn systematically and regularly at that point. Not me.
My touristy visit to Japan was an interesting illiterate experience, suddenly I didn't have what I had always taken for granted. My dad and I were copying kanji names of train stations into a notebook, so that we would know where to go It was great. And now with Russian, I am more or less experiencing what it is to learn how to read the normal way, I suppose. I am curious about my progress, when will I feel comfortable with the script, when will it start to transfer the text into my brain automatically.
My "progress" is extremely slow. I have a streak in Clozemaster De-En though!!! Several days! That is unusual for me. More studying from next week on, there is an exam on Tuesday.
I looked up some Russian books, for my Rdearman's study participation. I can somewhat read Russian but I cannot write it. So, the method is wikipedia language switching, Ctrl+C, Ctrl+V, and then googling. I think it shouldn't be much of a problem to find stuff for me.
Cyrillic reading is an interesting experience for me. I suppose the reading learning stage I am at is similar to that of children learning to read. I read slowly, I know some of the letters better, some need more remembering, the reconstruction of each word in my mind takes a moment, I am sometimes not sure and have to guess. I don't have this experience with the latin alphabet. As a small girl, I used to ask "what is written there?" like other children. One day, when I was four, I simply started to read well, the puzzle clicked together. I don't remember that day in particular (my mum does), but I remember happy moments with books from then on. And I remember people who were finding it more probable that I would have had memorized something (such as a restaurant menu) than that I would have read it, and with the bottom of the page up. Weird
This is one of the reasons why I love reading, I got an early start without any trouble, I could simply dive into the wonderful world of books and have fun. But it is also one of the reasons why I am bad at studying. Most kids start learning how to learn systematically and regularly at that point. Not me.
My touristy visit to Japan was an interesting illiterate experience, suddenly I didn't have what I had always taken for granted. My dad and I were copying kanji names of train stations into a notebook, so that we would know where to go It was great. And now with Russian, I am more or less experiencing what it is to learn how to read the normal way, I suppose. I am curious about my progress, when will I feel comfortable with the script, when will it start to transfer the text into my brain automatically.
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I LOVE THE ANKI-HABITICA ADDON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yes, in capital letters, bigger font, and bold. That much!
I am using it for my medicine studies. Why didn't I start much earlier? Well, because it would have been a real pain and time sink to create cards based on the czech coursebooks and without any proper pattern how. And I used to have trouble with sticking to anki, which seems to be solved now.
I don't think I'll download any premade anki decks for languages. I did in past and they somehow didn't suit me. How would you go about turning Memrise decks into anki? I care especially about the one I have made.
And before I start using Memrise for languages again (which doesn't seem to be anytime soon, unless I find out that the readlang flashcards won't suffice for rdearman's study, I am considering turning srt to the movies and tv series somehow into epub and adding them to readlang too), I should probably take the time and finally learn how to use write in cards in Anki. It is possible, it just looked like a long and difficult process. But I am sure it can be learnt. Now with that addon, I wouldn't mind leaving Memrise. It seems to be just a question of time before they let rot the userbase created courses and all the original ideas that survived the transit from Beta to the new version, and turn Memrise into a childish hypereasy toy focusing on their own crappy courses. Some people report their usemade courses getting broken after a recent update of the website. And now it looks like my nice Memonist rank will be turned into a generic Level X, with a creepy childish kitsch character supposed to represent me and my learning.
And before anyone asks: yes, I realise some of the things I am criticising about Memrise are exactly the base of Habitica (painted character improvement, levels). But they are implemented totally differently.
Habitica is probably the only way I can chop my studies into pieces and reward myself regularly. In real life, I tend to simply eat the promised chocolate without fulfilling the task, or going out without having my daily dose finished. In an RPG, I can think of easy subquests to keep me away from frustration, but I still wouldn't falsely hoard exp without fulfilling them!
Yes, in capital letters, bigger font, and bold. That much!
I am using it for my medicine studies. Why didn't I start much earlier? Well, because it would have been a real pain and time sink to create cards based on the czech coursebooks and without any proper pattern how. And I used to have trouble with sticking to anki, which seems to be solved now.
I don't think I'll download any premade anki decks for languages. I did in past and they somehow didn't suit me. How would you go about turning Memrise decks into anki? I care especially about the one I have made.
And before I start using Memrise for languages again (which doesn't seem to be anytime soon, unless I find out that the readlang flashcards won't suffice for rdearman's study, I am considering turning srt to the movies and tv series somehow into epub and adding them to readlang too), I should probably take the time and finally learn how to use write in cards in Anki. It is possible, it just looked like a long and difficult process. But I am sure it can be learnt. Now with that addon, I wouldn't mind leaving Memrise. It seems to be just a question of time before they let rot the userbase created courses and all the original ideas that survived the transit from Beta to the new version, and turn Memrise into a childish hypereasy toy focusing on their own crappy courses. Some people report their usemade courses getting broken after a recent update of the website. And now it looks like my nice Memonist rank will be turned into a generic Level X, with a creepy childish kitsch character supposed to represent me and my learning.
And before anyone asks: yes, I realise some of the things I am criticising about Memrise are exactly the base of Habitica (painted character improvement, levels). But they are implemented totally differently.
Habitica is probably the only way I can chop my studies into pieces and reward myself regularly. In real life, I tend to simply eat the promised chocolate without fulfilling the task, or going out without having my daily dose finished. In an RPG, I can think of easy subquests to keep me away from frustration, but I still wouldn't falsely hoard exp without fulfilling them!
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I think most members of this community sometimes procrastinate on various other forums and websites about language learning too. We all know it is wrong, that we are unlikely to find better info than already gathered around here (I know that sounds bad, said just like this, but it is unfortunately true), and that we should put that time into our anki reviews or another couple of book pages instead.
But there are times these websites heal me from the "craving" for some time. I think we have all seen sites like the Duolingo forums, that are simply not worth digging in for the very low % of valuable threads for a bit more experienced learners. And no, it doesn't make a difference answering people other stuff than "do the reverse tree and just speak!" And I can say that most communities I've seen over the years were similar in some ways.
Language blogs are of various quality and in general better than the forums, especially once I find something great (the mezzofanti guild or ajatt taught me a lot), but than there is Benny, the Irish Polyglot. That is the impuls for writing this post. I think I don't need to repeat the pros and cons of his approach and the admiration and at the same time cautions approach to his success stories. But the even more confusing part are the other contributors. Again, there is actually some very good stuff there, than some typical and boring stuff I don't need to click on, but today it took me just a few minutes to accidentally find a pearl
How I Learned to Speak Mandarin Chinese while Living in Kansas, that sounded good.
I am dreaming of learning a very exotic language one day, and I am always on the lookout for ideas on learning without moving half a world away. Some of the stuff was in general good and inspirational (a weekend in the target language only, or tips on immersion in China that wouldn't cost you an and arm and a leg, those are surely useful to many readers, just like the tip to practice with model exams). But then there are some really weird things there. https://www.fluentin3months.com/mandarin-chinese-tips/
"Speak to the Chinese waiters" is a typical "talk immediately" example of a basic interaction. Nice. But really, how many waiters are eager to waste time babbling with beginner learners, especially outside the TL country? And are you sure the waiter would understand? In the Czech Republic, for example, the Chinese restaurant staff is much more likely to be Vietnamese. And in the US, I would guess lots of the people could be of Chinese heritage, but not actively speaking the language anymore.
"Teach what you already know" made me cringe.
Like, really???!!! Pronunciation?! Mandarin?! Tones?! A beginner teaching it to someone?! To people who can't tell the mistakes apart from the correct pronunciation yet?!
So, experiences like this + Habitica-Firefox addon are nice steps to get me rid of this procrastinational bad habit
But there are times these websites heal me from the "craving" for some time. I think we have all seen sites like the Duolingo forums, that are simply not worth digging in for the very low % of valuable threads for a bit more experienced learners. And no, it doesn't make a difference answering people other stuff than "do the reverse tree and just speak!" And I can say that most communities I've seen over the years were similar in some ways.
Language blogs are of various quality and in general better than the forums, especially once I find something great (the mezzofanti guild or ajatt taught me a lot), but than there is Benny, the Irish Polyglot. That is the impuls for writing this post. I think I don't need to repeat the pros and cons of his approach and the admiration and at the same time cautions approach to his success stories. But the even more confusing part are the other contributors. Again, there is actually some very good stuff there, than some typical and boring stuff I don't need to click on, but today it took me just a few minutes to accidentally find a pearl
How I Learned to Speak Mandarin Chinese while Living in Kansas, that sounded good.
I am dreaming of learning a very exotic language one day, and I am always on the lookout for ideas on learning without moving half a world away. Some of the stuff was in general good and inspirational (a weekend in the target language only, or tips on immersion in China that wouldn't cost you an and arm and a leg, those are surely useful to many readers, just like the tip to practice with model exams). But then there are some really weird things there. https://www.fluentin3months.com/mandarin-chinese-tips/
"Speak to the Chinese waiters" is a typical "talk immediately" example of a basic interaction. Nice. But really, how many waiters are eager to waste time babbling with beginner learners, especially outside the TL country? And are you sure the waiter would understand? In the Czech Republic, for example, the Chinese restaurant staff is much more likely to be Vietnamese. And in the US, I would guess lots of the people could be of Chinese heritage, but not actively speaking the language anymore.
"Teach what you already know" made me cringe.
Sure, we all have probably sometimes studied by explaining the stuff to our pets, plants, younger siblings, teddy bears, imaginary friends, or anyone/anything else without an option to run away (my boyfriend fell asleep after only 15 minutes of neurosurgery explanations, perhaps earlier but it took me a while to find out. That counts like fleeing too, but I continued for a longer while anyways ). That works fine. Learning AS IF we were to teach it. But really, I definitely wouldn't dare to do this:After hours of frustrating work, I remembered a piece of advice given to me by one of my old high school teachers: “Learn what you are doing as if you are going to teach it.”
head on over to italki and reach out to a couple of language buddies that are a little newer to learning Mandarin. Offer to teach them pronunciation.
Like, really???!!! Pronunciation?! Mandarin?! Tones?! A beginner teaching it to someone?! To people who can't tell the mistakes apart from the correct pronunciation yet?!
So, experiences like this + Habitica-Firefox addon are nice steps to get me rid of this procrastinational bad habit
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