IronMike's 2023 log: Fewer means better, right? (EO & RUS)
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Re: So many languages, so little time. IronMike's 2018 language log
Thanks for sharing the GLOSS link. I looked at the German material and found it to be engaging. Definitely enough material there and very clear explanations in the material on what we are hearing. They propose good hooks to figuring out the content.
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Italian, 1L/2R (DLPT IV, 2019)
Esperanto, C1 (KER skriba ekzameno, 2017)
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Re: So many languages, so little time. IronMike's 2018 language log
Went on a hike with the wife on Sunday, the target of our walk being a Parcourse she saw while driving somewhere a few days before. (She's a big fan of parcourses if only because it gives her an opportunity to do pull-ups while out on a walk.) We got to the parcourse and immediately started on the pull-ups (her, not me). Another guy was there and when he spoke with us he had an accent. Of course then my mission was to place it.
Thankfully, a few minutes before we left two of his friends showed up and they started talking among themselves. Most certainly a Slavic language. Russian? Nyet. BCS? Ne. Czech? Probably not. Not Polish either. I heard something that sounded south Slavic so I took a stab.
"Bulgarian?" I asked.
"Oh my gosh, yes. How did you know?"
"I've studied Slavic languages in the past so thought I'd take a guess."
"Wow. No one in America has ever guessed correctly. You are the first!"
What followed was my best impression of Rocky in Philly.
Thankfully, a few minutes before we left two of his friends showed up and they started talking among themselves. Most certainly a Slavic language. Russian? Nyet. BCS? Ne. Czech? Probably not. Not Polish either. I heard something that sounded south Slavic so I took a stab.
"Bulgarian?" I asked.
"Oh my gosh, yes. How did you know?"
"I've studied Slavic languages in the past so thought I'd take a guess."
"Wow. No one in America has ever guessed correctly. You are the first!"
What followed was my best impression of Rocky in Philly.
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My swimming life.
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- IronMike
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German, 2L/1+R (DLPT5, 2021)
Italian, 1L/2R (DLPT IV, 2019)
Esperanto, C1 (KER skriba ekzameno, 2017)
Slovene, 2+L/3R (DLPT II in, yes, 1999) - Language Log: viewtopic.php?f=15&t=5189
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Re: So many languages, so little time. IronMike's 2018 language log
BCS: Started a level 2 listening lesson this week in Gloss: коцка - први део. Nope. Still not back to that level yet. So, moved back to 1+ and did a lesson on airport security: пренос пртљага авионом. Way too easy. Dammit. I need a 2-minus or a 1-plus-plus. Then I tried to do a lesson today, but the site was going so slowly I couldn't get anything to load. So off to my Alexander & Elias-Bursac book.
Esperanto: Put a pause on reading as I've got my BCS DLPT and OPI in less than a month. I'll get back to Ĝambo Rafiki right after. Almost done with it anyway.
Esperanto: Put a pause on reading as I've got my BCS DLPT and OPI in less than a month. I'll get back to Ĝambo Rafiki right after. Almost done with it anyway.
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You're not a C1 (or B1 or whatever) if you haven't tested.
CEFR --> ILR/DLPT equivalencies
My swimming life.
My reading life.
CEFR --> ILR/DLPT equivalencies
My swimming life.
My reading life.
- IronMike
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German, 2L/1+R (DLPT5, 2021)
Italian, 1L/2R (DLPT IV, 2019)
Esperanto, C1 (KER skriba ekzameno, 2017)
Slovene, 2+L/3R (DLPT II in, yes, 1999) - Language Log: viewtopic.php?f=15&t=5189
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Re: So many languages, so little time. IronMike's 2018 language log
So, got distracted in Chapter 27 of @Daniel N's excellent Easy Croatian when I clicked on a link to read about "the diversity of languages" which differentiate between hand and arm.
Oh.
My.
God.
I can spend hours on this page. Such fun. Hvala vam puno, Daniel!
Oh.
My.
God.
I can spend hours on this page. Such fun. Hvala vam puno, Daniel!
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Re: So many languages, so little time. IronMike's 2018 language log
Oh yes, WALS is the best. Second only to CALS, which is the same sort of site but for conlangs instead of natural language.
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Re: So many languages, so little time. IronMike's 2018 language log
IronMike wrote:So, got distracted in Chapter 27 of @Daniel N's excellent Easy Croatian when I clicked on a link to read about "the diversity of languages" which differentiate between hand and arm.
Speaking of getting distracted...on seeing "search for a languoid" in the Languages section of WALS, a wave of curiosity got the better of me and beached me here: Languoid, Doculect and Glossonym: Formalizing the Notion 'Language' (Good & Cysouw, 2013)! Well, I guess it makes a change from making one too many clicks on YT and ending up watching "meanwhile in Russia" compilations...
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Re: So many languages, so little time. IronMike's 2018 language log
IronMike wrote:So, got distracted in Chapter 27 of @Daniel N's excellent Easy Croatian when I clicked on a link to read about "the diversity of languages" which differentiate between hand and arm.
Oh.
My.
God.
I can spend hours on this page. Such fun. Hvala vam puno, Daniel!
Hahaha thanks I'm glad you liked that link There are more links elsewhere...
If you open the comments below that chapter, you'll see a discussion I had whether BCMS has the word for hand, as many people -- even linguists -- often claim! I had such discussions more than once and they always stop when I give the WALS link -- you cannot go against WALS (in fact, there are some dubious data in WALS here and there, but you really have to understand some features deeply). Some people seem offended with the idea of BCMS being an imprecise language. No! My native language has a word for hand! We use it! I used it... a few years ago! And so.
One minor point. As I have already written elsewhere, using vam in this context is not what we do. We are two random persons, and on Internet forums it's always ti then. Only if I were someone really known, someone you know in the real life and use vi to communicate with, you would use vi then.
As always, I welcome any comment/correction/suggestion on my web site
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Check Easy Croatian (very useful for Bosnian, Montenegrin and Serbian as well)
- IronMike
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German, 2L/1+R (DLPT5, 2021)
Italian, 1L/2R (DLPT IV, 2019)
Esperanto, C1 (KER skriba ekzameno, 2017)
Slovene, 2+L/3R (DLPT II in, yes, 1999) - Language Log: viewtopic.php?f=15&t=5189
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Re: So many languages, so little time. IronMike's 2018 language log
Wow, a bunch of time has passed since my last post. What the hell have I done? Probably a lot, but I've just had three wonderful beers, celebrating my success in a long marathon swim (10+ miles in the Tennessee River) so I've not much I can write about now. Oh, I can say that I've gotten my language(s) for the language jam next weekend. Dutch or Hungarian. Both on Duolingo. Unsure which to work on. Hungarian is calling me because it is so different from almost every other language I've ever studied. But then there's Dutch. Hmm...
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My swimming life.
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CEFR --> ILR/DLPT equivalencies
My swimming life.
My reading life.
- IronMike
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Russian, 3/3 (DLPT5, 2022) 2+ (OPI, 2022)
German, 2L/1+R (DLPT5, 2021)
Italian, 1L/2R (DLPT IV, 2019)
Esperanto, C1 (KER skriba ekzameno, 2017)
Slovene, 2+L/3R (DLPT II in, yes, 1999) - Language Log: viewtopic.php?f=15&t=5189
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Re: So many languages, so little time. IronMike's 2018 language log
My new favorite Croatian word: brkati: to confuse, mix up. From The Little Prince: Ti sve brkaš. Love it!
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You're not a C1 (or B1 or whatever) if you haven't tested.
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My reading life.
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My swimming life.
My reading life.
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Re: So many languages, so little time. IronMike's 2018 language log
Impressive work on the swim. I was on the triathlon team in college and I've done my fair share of swimming - that's no small feat to do a 10+ mile swim. You have any special milestones/goals that you're working towards?
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