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Re: Whodathunkitz log Cebuano Spanish Esperanto

Postby DaveBee » Sun Mar 11, 2018 9:47 am

The British Library have what appears to be a parallel text of Cebuano folk tales. You would be able to order this through your local library, the last time I did that for a book it cost £7.50.

The World Cat entry links to some online previews.

The editor/author has a wikipedia page (internet fame!): Erlinda K. Alburo

EDIT
Correction. This appears to be one or two short booklets, rather than a book.
With a grant from the Catholic Mission Council in Cologne, W. Germany, it also initiated a Cebuano Folklore Series of child and adult education readers. The following titles have been published: Cebuano Folktales 1 & 2 (1977) Cebuano Folksongs 1 (1978), and Tigmo ug Sanglitanan/Cebuano Riddles and Proverbs (2003).

https://www.cebuanostudiescenter.com/publications/

https://www.cebuanostudiescenter.com/ce ... lktales-1/

https://www.cebuanostudiescenter.com/ce ... lktales-2/
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Re: Whodathunkitz log Cebuano Spanish Esperanto

Postby Whodathunkitz » Mon Mar 12, 2018 8:27 pm

DaveBee wrote:The British Library have what appears to be a parallel text of Cebuano folk tales. You would be able to order this through your local library, the last time I did that for a book it cost £7.50.

The World Cat entry links to some online previews.

The editor/author has a wikipedia page (internet fame!): Erlinda K. Alburo

EDIT
Correction. This appears to be one or two short booklets, rather than a book.
With a grant from the Catholic Mission Council in Cologne, W. Germany, it also initiated a Cebuano Folklore Series of child and adult education readers. The following titles have been published: Cebuano Folktales 1 & 2 (1977) Cebuano Folksongs 1 (1978), and Tigmo ug Sanglitanan/Cebuano Riddles and Proverbs (2003).

https://www.cebuanostudiescenter.com/publications/

https://www.cebuanostudiescenter.com/ce ... lktales-1/

https://www.cebuanostudiescenter.com/ce ... lktales-2/


Thanks for the info.

She is the director of San Carlos University cebuano studies. I will try to visit there this year.

Links not working well on my phone so I will try on pc.

Thanks again.
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Re: Whodathunkitz log Cebuano Spanish Esperanto

Postby Whodathunkitz » Wed Mar 14, 2018 12:07 pm

Briefly met an Irish priest at the weekend who spoke Cebuano, Tagalog and probably Spanish.

He said he picked it up from just travelling remote areas.

Better Cebuano than me, even though he hasn't lived there for a while (I believe).

Hopefully we can meet up, but not sure how long he's around.
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Re: Whodathunkitz log Cebuano Spanish Esperanto

Postby Whodathunkitz » Thu Mar 15, 2018 12:06 am

Met a new bisaya speaker today.

Overhearing their conversation with my wife and joining in. Understood most of it and chipped in a bit.

Very happy with that.
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Re: Whodathunkitz log Cebuano Spanish Esperanto

Postby Whodathunkitz » Tue Mar 20, 2018 6:34 pm

20 March 2018

Re-read Leosmith (https://forum.language-learners.org/vie ... php?t=5054) for pronounciation. Good ideas, I have not got the required discipline, time, freedom (at the moment). Made me think I need to try something else on listening front.

Spanish - going back to memrise for listening. Little bit of listen/repeat. Using website as android app awful when I last tried, hadn't upgraded as I didn't want the wifi only version.

https://www.memrise.com/course/254196/s ... -practice/
https://www.memrise.com/course/206965/s ... ull-audio/
https://www.memrise.com/course/218823/s ... ermediate/

maybe some conversational connectors
https://www.memrise.com/course/799093/4 ... onnectors/
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Re: Whodathunkitz log Cebuano Spanish Esperanto

Postby Whodathunkitz » Thu Mar 22, 2018 12:38 pm

Memrise courses on pc for Spanish were encouraging.

80+ / 100+ right in a row.

But just started.

Did some 10000 sentences android app work. Pretty good but some unrecognised grammar in sentences. Source is Tatoeba.

I also have to be careful that things like memrise are easy for me compared to other aspects of language learning.


Cebuano

Spoke quite a long segment today which I think was well understood even if ungrammatical.
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Re: Whodathunkitz log Cebuano Spanish Esperanto

Postby Whodathunkitz » Sat Mar 31, 2018 12:47 pm

Spanish

Thanks to @systemaker who mentioned clozemaster.

I have been using it 3 days and 3280 points and 523 words. Top 100 for the week in Spanish.

Quite fast to get through. Am doing multiple choice rather than write.

I like the listening one but only one free per day.

Final couple of months of Spanish course then concentrate on cebuano.


Cebuano / bisaya

Often speak Cebuano in the house for simpler subjects. And also when walking with my wife which can be once or twice a day.

I do ok but haven't studied for nearly a year. My son understands a lot more and isn't anti using it so much now.

I'm looking forward to bisaya grammar refresh, Memrise and once refreshed, then Skype tuiton. Pity there's no Cebuano for clozemaster, duolingo, 10000 sentences etc.
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Re: Whodathunkitz log Cebuano Spanish Esperanto

Postby Whodathunkitz » Sun Apr 01, 2018 11:00 am

Spanish - top 70 ish for week (4 days) on Clozemaster

Found a new Youtube infants song channel - Pink Fong. Probably acceptable to kiddo as likes dinosaurs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIzwxvJo3yQ

maybe this one too:- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5yQkPVEhJ4
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCe3fvZ ... Q8Oza30bgg

I need to watch and write down new words from subtitles and then watch a few times without subtitles (card over bottom of the screen).


Cebuano...

Indian film with Cebuano / BIsaya subtitles https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQfd577k0ek

Otherwise religious / news (deaths mostly) - not anything I want to watch.
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Re: Whodathunkitz log Cebuano Spanish Esperanto

Postby Whodathunkitz » Mon Apr 02, 2018 10:36 pm

Spanish.

First day of new clozemaster week. Got to top 32 or something in Spanish, but that was earlier so now 40th for the week. I think I could have got top 10.

Then I changed my thoughts entirely...

I'm on holiday in July to Cebu so i'm switching focus to Cebuano. I still have 2 last Spanish assessments in may (or I can submit early).


Cebuano

Started learning this afternoon. First time in a year.

Arranged my first Skype session. Time differences make it awkward.

Gathered many of my physical (printed out) materials.

On laptop did Pomodoro on the best language guide/ grammar I have. Mormon produced, seems very good and readable. Last time I used it I took weeks and i got frustrated at not understanding terms and examples.

This time I read and did examples (covering up answers) on 40+ pages out of 130 pages in 5 or 6 Pomodoro sessions.

Not much was absolutely new, I did most examples right (75% I estimate). Good reminders though.

I jotted down a rough plan to try and do as much of in the next few days before Skype session. Doesn't matter how much I do, just try. Rest can be done between lessons.

Also am speaking Cebuano at home every day. Wife happy to do so and use more Cebuano with kiddo. She adds new terms and examples. Less code switching as we do longer sessions. But hard to use for complex or important stuff and I'm still not that great.

Rough plan:

1) finish guide (90 pages)
2) Memrise / quizlet etc Cebuano expressions
3) I have magbinisaya kita primer 1. Skim/read it. A5 160+ pages especially grammar review page 111
4) repeat 2 a bit
5) MODERN-ish bible gospels (need to check order but I think Mark, Luke, Matthew). Perhaps just a few pages. This WRITTEN bible is 1970s translation and closer to modern usage. Previous version I used for listening-reading befuddled native Cebuano speakers.
6) l-r old Bible app. Language seems archaic but I have the audio/text linked. Best bet for listening / pronounciation practice.
7) other media (Wikipedia, Duterte tv from when he was mayor)
8) repeat / complete all above while having Skype sessions from a tutor.
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Re: Whodathunkitz log Cebuano Spanish Esperanto

Postby Whodathunkitz » Mon Apr 02, 2018 11:47 pm

Monday 2nd April.

40+ pages of mormon language guide
200 Memrise reviews of 'intro to Cebuano through expressions'. Pretty good for such a long study gap / flexible word order language. 23 on speed test with long sentences / small typeface / phone - is a good start.
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