Rdearman 2016-24 You Can't Have Your Kate and Edith Too.

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Members???

Yes, but you don't typically get grammar explanations from native material.

Are you suddenly hungry for grammar now that you can't get it easily?

There was a Finnish in 35 hours challenge back on HTLAL, no? Ultimate Challenge or something, with a judge even.

[jeff_lindqvist]

Accelerated Finnish

I would say that your production skills are A2. Not very clearly, but still. You all wrote a text that is clearly above the A1 definition. You all were able to form easily understandable utterances when we spoke. Ellasevia had a stronger A2 in writing than Sprachprofi and Arekkusu.

When it comes to understanding, you are somewhere between A1 and A2. No clear difference here between you three. Reading was easier for you, but I suppose that the use of dictionary would not be allowed in formal tests. The main problem in Finnish speaking environment would be to understand what people say.

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So there you have it. 30 days, 35 hours, 0 to A2 in Finnish.

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[reineke]

"I had a little chat with everyone. Of course we had a common language ready to be used in the case of misunderstandings (I mean English). But still: you are able to speak about basic things in life. You all had some problems understanding my question, but that is very predictable at this level.

Level

Ok. And then question about the level of your language skills. After such a short test, this isn’t “scientifically valid” but I think that you can live with it.


When it comes to understanding, you are somewhere between A1 and A2. No clear difference here between you three. Reading was easier for you, but I suppose that the use of dictionary would not be allowed in formal tests. The main problem in Finnish speaking environment would be to understand what people say.

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So there you have it. 30 days, 35 hours, 0 to A2 in Finnish."

No one tried the Dialang test?

You say Setswana lacks courses but I think part of the idea is to DIY learning material out of native material.

Yes, but you don't typically get grammar explanations from native material.

Peace Corps - There is no word for grammar in Setswana

https://www.livelingua.com/course/peace ... n_Setswana

Swahili is Cat III, Czech and Xhosa are Cat IV.

[rdearman]

Peace Corps - There is no word for grammar in Setswana

https://www.livelingua.com/course/peace ... n_Setswana

Swahili is Cat III, Czech and Xhosa are Cat IV.

Merci, Patron de ressources.

[reineke]

St Jerome is your best bet from now on.

[rdearman]

St Jerome is your best bet from now on.

Yes, I was going to ask where to find bible translations.

[Systematiker]

St Jerome is your best bet from now on.

Yes, I was going to ask where to find bible translations.

The YouVersion app has several Czech translations, one with audio as well (but Cavesa is less than thrilled with the translation, as I recall, and it’s not super literal). The Gideons do a bible app that has the 1985 ecumenical Czech translation audio, the text of which is freely available inter alia at biblenet.cz (this same audio is on bible.is)

The YouVersion app has two Setswana translations but no audio, and a cursory look hasn’t found any audio recordings.


Edit: https://beibele-setswana-bible.soft112. ... nload.html Claims that audio will be in the next update


Edit again: the “Thru the Bible” app/radio program, that the iguana used a lot, has Czech with transcript, too

[rdearman]

OK, well finally managed to ankify the Setswana peace corps course. I've also had a lot of problems with my plan of action for languages. Firstly because there was enough snow in London to almost make a footprint, the entire rail system was running half capacity yesterday evening and about 1/10th capacity this morning. So yesterday night it was standing room only as everyone tried to get on the same train before snow-armageddon happened. I managed 1/2 a lesson in Mandarin on an app, when I managed to get a seat 3/4 of the way into my journey. I had a book in French, so I spent my time standing just reading. This morning was a complete bust, I don't know why I even bothered to attempt to get to the station. The upshot of it all is I didn't get anything done this morning. I did manage to complete the Setswana anki deck at lunchtime however, and uploaded it, and synched it to my phone. So at least next time I have Setswana on anki.

Tonight I'll do more Czech and some French. I'm really looking forward to getting the Colloquial Czech course book from the library.

[rdearman]

I did an update in the Setswana & Czech log.

I'm basically following the schedule set out previously. Although snow storms disrupted a lot of my commuting last week, a blessing and a curse. I've adopted a pretty basic schedule for weekdays which is:

1. Do anki cards throughout day. I've added Setswana and Czech to the decks. I removed one French deck, I need to add in a deck for Italian & Mandarin.
2. 20 minutes of Czech on train in morning.
3. 20 minutes of Setswana (bible reading mostly) in morning.
4. Background listening each day, Setswana or French Internet radio mostly.
5. kwiziq French grammar at lunch.
6. 20 minutes Mandarin App on train in evening.
7. 20 minutes review Setswana or Czech depending on mood on train in evening.
8. Read 15-20 pages of TY Czech @home
9. 1-2 hours : LR 3 musketeers in French L2R1 (Monday, Wednesday, Friday), LR Treasure Island in Italian L2R1 (Tuesday, Thursday) @home
   

At the weekend I'm reading a YA book in French and watching the new series of Marseilles in French. I'm also planning to read more of the TY Czech. I do LR for a couple of hours. Saturday = French, Sunday = Italian. I am considering adding in Czech LR at some point in the future. I have some free resources so this could be done with the thanks of some recommendations I've been given in the other log.

[rdearman]

Did an update on Czech & Setswana in the other log.

I've continued with my schedule above, although I haven't managed to do the Italian LR. I've added Mandarin & Czech closemaster to the mix. I'm not so good at doing exactly 20 minutes, sometimes I do more, sometimes less. However, I do rotate through them consistently and spend a bit of time on them each day.

I really need to sort out some tutoring, but I'm back to the situation where I have the money not the time. When I have the time, I never have the money.

I have paid for the Kwiziq French and I'm working my way through each level until I can get 80-90% on each one. This will probably take me awhile, but it is something I can do for 10-15 minutes each day and get better at grammar.