Learning French log (Road to DELF B1)

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Re: Learning French log (Road to DELF B1)

Postby LanguageLearner0007 » Fri Jun 03, 2022 9:58 am

Notes to self


21.

À la fin de son numéro, les colombes ________.
At the end of his act, the doves disappear.
(HINT: Conjugate "disparaître" (to disappear) in Le Présent)

I answered "disparaient" whereas the correct answer was "disparaissent".

I somehow thought that the form with ss is only required for nous/vous and not for ils, confused with another rule.

Here in all plural form, you add ss.

Rule:

je

connais

tu

connais

il / elle / on

connaît

nous

connaissons

vous

connaissez

ils / elles

connaissent
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Re: Learning French log (Road to DELF B1)

Postby LanguageLearner0007 » Fri Jun 03, 2022 10:04 am

Notes to self


22.

Il y a ________ dans la maison? - Non.
Is there anyone else in the house? -No.

I answered "quelq'un" and the correct answer was "quelqu'un d'autre".

I didn't pay attention to the word "else" and even if I did, I wouldn't have known this form. I also misspelled the word quelqu'un.

It is just one expression to remember.

Rule:



Quelqu'un d'autre = someone else

Je suis désolée, mais j'aime quelqu'un d'autre.
I'm sorry, but I love someone else


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Re: Learning French log (Road to DELF B1)

Postby LanguageLearner0007 » Fri Jun 03, 2022 10:12 am

OK, so now at 16.28% at Kwiziq A2.

I have used up the free allocation and didn't pay for the premium, didn't think I needed it at this point. So, will keep using three allocation, unless I decide that I really need to speed up.

Otherwise, going through the 2nd season of "Plan cœur". It is not as interesting as the 1st one (so far), so there is a bit of decay in my engagement...

Otherwise, I'm reading news in French regularly and understand almost everything.

Still looking for the transcription of the Macron - Le Pen debate, doesn't seem like it exists in the open domain. The subtitles on Youtube are botched, so can't really follow.

Oral comprehension remains a challenge, I normally pick up just individual words and phrases and rarely understand entire sentences.
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Re: Learning French log (Road to DELF B1)

Postby LanguageLearner0007 » Fri Jun 03, 2022 11:30 pm

Back to the DELF B1 official book listening activities (after being slightly traumatized by Activity 10), done Activity 11, all correct.

I also typed the text and compared it to the real one, then highlighted the discrepancies.

My text:

Cher Monsieur Bensoussan, mon cher Marcel !

C’est avec émission, je prononce ce mot a vin votre départ.

Oui, après quarante-cinq ans passés dans notre garage, vous allez nous quitter pour prendre votre retraite.

Vous-êtes arriver ici comme apprenti mécanicien et vous partez aujourd’hui comme chef d’atelier de trente mécaniciens.

Bravo ! Votre passion pour les motos nous aidé à développer notre entreprise et nous sommes devenus, grâce à vous, les spécialistes de la réparation de motos de compétition.

Quand notre entreprise a connu des difficultés économiques il y a quinze ans, vous étiez, Marcel, déléguer du personnel et nous avons peux ensemble prendre le bon décision pour choisir le secteur moto. Tous les employés ont accepté ce changement et des clients sont revenus.

Je vous exprime tous nos compliments, cher Marcel, pour votre succès professionnel qu’est aussi notre succès. Félicitations à vous et je suis en même temps admiratif et un peu triste de vous quitter. Partons un toast, à votre retraite !

Actual text:

Cher Monsieur Bensoussan, mon cher Marcel, c’est avec
émotion que je prononce ces mots avant votre départ.
Oui, après 45 ans passés dans notre garage, vous allez
nous quitter pour prendre votre retraite. Vous êtes
arrivé ici comme apprenti mécanicien et vous partez
aujourd’hui comme chef d’atelier de 30 mécaniciens.
Bravo, votre passion pour les motos nous a aidés à
développer notre entreprise et nous sommes devenus,
grâce à vous, les spécialistes de la réparation des motos
de compétition.
Quand notre entreprise a connu des difficultés
économiques, il y a 15 ans, vous étiez, Marcel, délégué du
personnel et nous avons pu ensemble prendre les bonnes
décisions pour choisir le secteur moto. Tous les employés
ont accepté ce changement et les clients sont revenus.
Je vous exprime tous nos compliments, cher Marcel, pour
votre succès professionnel qui est aussi notre succès.
Félicitations à vous et je suis en même temps admiratif
et un peu triste de vous quitter. Portons un toast à votre
retraite !

Errors:

1) misheard the word "émotion"
2) missed the word "que"

- it cannot be heard at all!!! this is the difficulty in comprehension, hardly anyone would hear the word "que" in this recording, it's unintelligible

3) used singular instead of plural "ces mots" - this is still too subtle for me to understand by hearing
4) misheard the word "avant"
5) used the infinitive form of the verb, instead of Passé composé "Vous êtes arrivé"
6) incorrectly used Passé composé although i'm not sure why the verb here is in the plural form, if the word "passion" is singular???

" votre passion pour les motos nous a aidés"

7) used "de" instead of "des"
8) again used the infinitive form of the verb, instead of Passé composé "délégué"
9) used "peux" instead of "pu"
10) used singular instead of plural in " les bonnes décisions"

a bit confusing - I thought you need just one decision to choose the sector, not multiple

11) used "des" instead of "les"
12) used "qu'est" instead of "qui est"
13) misspelled "Portons"
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Re: Learning French log (Road to DELF B1)

Postby LanguageLearner0007 » Thu Jun 09, 2022 12:24 am

The only thing I did in French lately was watching Dua Lipa's reel where she says "J'aime le vin".

Hopefully, more productive next time...
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Re: Learning French log (Road to DELF B1)

Postby Lawyer&Mom » Thu Jun 09, 2022 1:23 am

LanguageLearner0007 wrote:
Otherwise, going through the 2nd season of "Plan cœur". It is not as interesting as the 1st one (so far), so there is a bit of decay in my engagement...


Ugh. Wait til you get to season 3… I’ve all but abandoned it.
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Re: Learning French log (Road to DELF B1)

Postby LanguageLearner0007 » Tue Jul 05, 2022 3:35 pm

Hello, everyone!

I didn't learn French for almost a month.

Really no motivation, progress seems elusive and so many things are happening in life.

I did use my 10 July Kwiziq credits just now.

This pushed my A2 achievement score to 21.47%, slowly creeping up.

I did 10 tests, with 3, 1, 0, 2, 2, 2, 3, 3, 0, 3 errors, respectively.

Overall, that's 19 errors which is a bit disappointing, as I also tend to think that I repeat the same errors more than once.

If I feel motivated at some point, I will go through those errors here.

I seem to particularly struggle with the topic "Using manquer (de) to say you/something miss or lack in French".
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Re: Learning French log (Road to DELF B1)

Postby MorkTheFiddle » Wed Jul 06, 2022 12:45 am

LanguageLearner0007 wrote:
I seem to particularly struggle with the topic "Using manquer (de) to say you/something miss or lack in French".

I suspect many learners of French struggle with this. It seems so backward, at least to an English speaker.
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Re: Learning French log (Road to DELF B1)

Postby LanguageLearner0007 » Wed Jul 13, 2022 2:03 pm

I was goofing around with Duolingo, they added quite a few new lessons, so I now completed all of them and got the "Cup" again for the English-French tree.

With a help of a friend, I picked up the DELF book again and did the Activity 12 in the oral comprehension.

This book is going to take quite some time, as I have capacity for 1-2 activities max per day.

Not setting overly ambtious targets, as I'm actually trying to enjoy the summer. Picking up the book again is an achievement by itself.

I answered 3/4 questions correctly, they were relatively easy.

The 4th question is tricky, as it offers you to choose the correct responses from 6 choices. I have chosen 5, while only 3 of them were correct. The other two were present in the text as well, but they weren't used specifically to express sympathy...
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Re: Learning French log (Road to DELF B1)

Postby LanguageLearner0007 » Tue Aug 02, 2022 10:37 am

So, I was trying to watch "Plan cœur" and "Dix pour cent", just couldn't relate...

Instead, I watched "Indochine" with Catherine Deneuve. No regrets.

The only mild irritation I had is the quality of the subtitles. For some reason, the subtitles don't translate the speech "word for word". They seem to omit phrases here and there.

I was looking for the original screenplay of "Indochine" with everything 100% correct but couldn't find it so far.
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