Quamquam hunc diarium tuum persaepe magnaque cum delectatione lego, non satis intellexeram te Ingentis Certaminis (quod vulgo 'Super Challenge' dicitur) participem factum esse. Longum et sine dubio arduum opus sic tibi imposuisti, non dubito tamen quin res feliciter eveniat.
Jucundum est legere haec, quae sive Latine sive Anglice scribis. Quae enim Graece scripta sunt non tam facile a me legi possunt. Fatendum est tamen me, scriptis et tuis et sodalis nostri 'cito' vocati lectis, magnum desiderium concepisse Graecorum studiorum rursus sumendorum.
Nuper vidi te aliqua capitula e libro c. t. De viris illustribus Ecclesiae legisse. Quid de hoc sentis? Satisne idoneus ad tirones erudiendos?
Macte animo et perge id, quod tam bene coepisti!
Herodotean's log (Latin, Greek, German, Spanish, etc.)
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Re: Herodotean's log (Latin, Greek, German, Spanish, etc.)
guyome wrote:
Querneus wrote:
Vestris scriptis, O benevoli benignique lectores, lectis, maximo me gaudio affectum esse confiteor, socios enim Latine scribentes loquentesve haud parvi aestimo; vobis etiam annotatiunculas meas exiguas ac viles laudantibus gratias ago ingentes.
Eae incisiones, Quernee, quas collegit Latinitium, mihi notae sunt, etsi oportet multo saepius auscultem quam soleo. Suscipiesne re vera Ingens Certamen? An suscepisti?
Ut tibi, Guyome, respondeam, suaserim ut studia Graecia quam citissime recipias; nam lingua Graeca non suavior, ut ita dicam, mihi videtur quam Latina, sed grandior – id si fieri potest – atque elatior. Quod ad eum librum attinet c.t. “De viris illustribus Ecclesiae,” rogandum est quales sint ei tirones qui legentes erudiantur. Utilis mihi quidem videtur ad eos erudiendos qui scriptores Christianos magis quam eos qui “classici” dicuntur legere velint, quique non maximi aestiment eos “circuitus,” Graece περιόδους dictos, quibus oratores Romani utebantur. Utrum ad finem libri perveniam necne haud scio.
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10–16 July 2022
Behind on the Super Challenges for everything but Spanish listening (a half-challenge). I now have extra time after being extremely busy for the past several weeks, so I’ll claw my way out of the hole soon.
Latin
Latin
- Saint Bonaventure, Soliloquium de quatuor mentalibus exercitiis 43–59
A footnote in Gasparri’s Catechismus Catholicus led me to this earnest and very readable work, quite removed from my usual fare. Bonaventure’s primary interlocutors are people like St. Ambrose and St. Bernard. The style is pleasant to my classical, or mostly classical, ears, despite the usual later Latin preference for nouns where classical Latin would have used a verb or a verbal periphrasis. - Cicero, Brutus 58–102 (15 pages or so)
- Lucian, Calumniae non temere credendum
- Lucian, Soloecista
- New Testament: Romans 6–7
- Isocrates, Philip 32–72
- Not much. Some audio here and there.
- Some audio here and there. No Dos Vidas this week; ¡qué lástima!
- La traviata: Act 1, part of Act 2. I’m listening to Lisette Oropesa’s 2022 performance, which to my ignorant ears seems wonderful (critics also praise it, so it’s not just me). This is more for the music than for the language: I’m using an English/Italian libretto and not bothering to look anything up, though the English is not entirely trustworthy.
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Re: Herodotean's log (Latin, Greek, German, Spanish, etc.)
Herodotean wrote:Eae incisiones, Quernee, quas collegit Latinitium, mihi notae sunt, etsi oportet multo saepius auscultem quam soleo. Suscipiesne re vera Ingens Certamen? An suscepisti?
Numquam equidem suscepi, sed fortasse eo mihi opus est.
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17–23 July 2022
Still catching up on the Super Challenges: I’m currently 38 pages behind on Latin and 35 pages behind on Greek. That’s an improvement over a week ago!
Latin
Latin
- Saint Bonaventure, Soliloquium de quatuor mentalibus exercitiis 60–71
- Cicero, Brutus 103–180 (35 pp.). I was delighted to finally read the famous quotation – “non enim tam praeclarum est scire Latine quam turpe nescire” – in its original context (a discussion of the famous orator Antonius).
- Erasmus, Colloquia pp. 375–88.
- St. Augustine, Sermo 53/103 on Mary and Martha (Luke 10.38–42).
- Dio Chrysostom, Oratio 11.35–36 (3 pp.)
- Philostratus, Heroicus 1–6 (6 pp.)
- Isocrates, Philip 73–77 (2 pp.)
- Homer, Iliad 1.302–412
- memorization: Homer, Iliad 1.1–32
- Some academic prose
- Deutschland: Grundwissen und Mehr pp. 277–82
- Slowly whittling down my Anki backlog for the Routledge Frequency Dictionary deck.
- Dos Vidas: last half of 12.
- La traviata: nothing this week.
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24–30 July 2022
I have almost dug myself out of the hole for both reading challenges: only about 13 pages behind in each. The audio is hopeless, but ah well.
Latin
Latin
- St. Thomas, Summa theologiae I.1 (13 pages). Like a cold shower for the mind.
- Saint Bonaventure, Soliloquium de quatuor mentalibus exercitiis 72–83
- Miraglia, Fabulae Syrae pp. 38–70. Shamelessly using this to catch up on the Super Challenge.
- Büsching Liber Latinus in usum puerorum Latinam linguam discentium (1769), pp. 1–24.
- Cicero, Brutus 181–93
- St. Augustine, Sermo 53/103 on Mary and Martha (Luke 10.38–42)
- Erasmus, Colloquia: nothing this week.
- Vivarium Novum, Ἐφόδιον vol. 1 (some last week, the rest this week; it’s a quick read)
- Plato, Phaedrus 237c–243e
- Philostratus, Heroicus 7–19
- Isocrates, Philip 78–end
- Hunter’s Green and Yellow of Greek Epitaphic Poetry, epitaphs 1–16
- Dio Chrysostom, Oratio 11.47–61
- memorization: Homer, Iliad 1.1–42
- Some academic prose
- Dos Vidas: an hour or two.
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Re: 24–30 July 2022
I watched a short German video about St Thomas yesterday: Wo fängt die Welt an? Der erste Beweger | Thomas von AquinHerodotean wrote:
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- St. Thomas, Summa theologiae I.1 (13 pages). Like a cold shower for the mind.
- Some academic prose
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DaveAgain wrote:I watched a short German video about St Thomas yesterday: Wo fängt die Welt an? Der erste Beweger | Thomas von AquinHerodotean wrote:
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- St. Thomas, Summa theologiae I.1 (13 pages). Like a cold shower for the mind.
- Some academic prose
Thanks for the link. I haven't done much philosophy in German, so it was a bit difficult to follow for me but still enjoyable.
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31 July – 6 August 2022
I am now ahead on the reading Super Challenges (by 19 pages for Greek, 11 for Latin).
Latin
Latin
- Virgil, Aeneid 1 (all), 2.1–412. I suppose the last time I read much of the Aeneid was in 2020. It wasn’t hard then, but it seems easier now than I remember. I’m rapidly coming to believe it’s a crime to read Virgil silently.
- Gasparri, Catechismus Catholicus 121–131
- Büsching Liber Latinus in usum puerorum Latinam linguam discentium (1769), pp. 25–36
- Saint Bonaventure, Soliloquium de quatuor mentalibus exercitiis 84–90
- Cicero, Brutus 194–200
- A few pages of Laurentius Valla's Elegantiae (on diminutives). Valla points out something I had never consciously noticed: namely, that the -aster suffix denotes an imitator (as opposed to the genuine article). Hence English poetaster, but also Latin philosophaster, parasitaster, filiaster, and Ambrosiaster.
- Plato, Euthyphro (all)
- Herodotus 1.1–45
- Homer, Iliad 1.413–516
- Philostratus, Heroicus 20–35.6
- memorization: Homer, Iliad 1.1–42
- Deutschland: Grundwissen und Mehr, pp. 283–87. The chapters on German politics are a slog. I might have to start skipping around.
- Coles & Dodd, Reading German: skimmed chapters 1–5.
- Some academic prose. I'm still such a slow reader!
- Mit dem Nachtzug von Wien nach Bukarest (WDR Reisen): Just about everything in this video – from the mix of languages to the landscapes to the very doorhandles of the train – gave me Sehnsucht for Europe. I haven’t been since 2019 and I can’t imagine when I might go back.
- Also watched part of this WDR travel documentary on Corsica ("Korsika – Frankreichs schönste Insel").
- Dos Vidas: 14, part of 15
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Busy! What was it like reading Euthyphro entirely in Greek?
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