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Re: Italian, French, Polish, and no more

Postby lusan » Thu Feb 03, 2022 5:35 pm

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4. E niente Sia, Vol 1 – Giulia Beyman – 249 pag.
5. La Prima volta in Cui sono Morta – Marta Minotti – 235 pag.

I stopped adding words to Anki. Currently I just read and listen to either podcasts or Youtubes. I find it more efficient than watching the news. I am a little tired the politics and Covid as topics. A good find is RAI radio. I think it is a much very source of listening material. Since listening Standard Italian is doing so well, I am moving more of my efforts to recover French from the pit of hell where resides in company of il olvido.

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I started an Anki deck for Active French. My listening and reading are Ok but my speaking is not good at all. No surprising since I don’t talk to anyone. I keep working on my French listening deck.

I began using Assimil with Ease again as a way to recover the language. I am in lesson 42. I am reviewing by this routine:

1. Listen full dialogue. Once.
2. Listen every sentence and repeat while trying to insure good pronunciation. Three times.
3. Read aloud dialogue once to verify that I sound somewhat frenchish. Once

I gave up on French visual media. Instead I use Youtubes of whatever I find interesting of history, politics, philosophy, etc. I have a pretty good understanding.

I started my first French book this year.

1. Le Mystère de la Chambre jaune –Gaston Leroux – 209 pag.

I find it very boring. I wouldn’t recommend it to anyone. I just keep going till the end using will power. I don’t like to give it up because surrendering creates bad habits.

It seems that to understand this book, I need to read it aloud. I am a really afraid with the pronunciation but I try me best to check them out or a least to write the unclear words out to verified them later.
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Re: Italian, French, Polish, and no more

Postby DaveAgain » Thu Feb 03, 2022 6:18 pm

lusan wrote:I started my first French book this year.

1. Le Mystère de la Chambre jaune –Gaston Leroux – 209 pag.

I find it very boring. I wouldn’t recommend it to anyone. I just keep going till the end using will power. I don’t like to give it up because surrendering creates bad habits.

It seems that to understand this book, I need to read it aloud. I am a really afraid with the pronunciation but I try me best to check them out or a least to write the unclear words out to verified them later.
I have a vague memory of finding that dull too. :-)

There's a film version currently available on Arte.tv, perhaps watching that would help?

I think the first French books I read were easy readers from the library, and translations of Enid Blyton's famous five books (le club des cinq). The Petit Nicolas stories are pretty funny.
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Re: Italian, French, Polish, and no more

Postby lusan » Fri Feb 04, 2022 2:54 am

DaveAgain wrote:
lusan wrote:I started my first French book this year.

1. Le Mystère de la Chambre jaune –Gaston Leroux – 209 pag.

I find it very boring. I wouldn’t recommend it to anyone. I just keep going till the end using will power. I don’t like to give it up because surrendering creates bad habits.

It seems that to understand this book, I need to read it aloud. I am a really afraid with the pronunciation but I try me best to check them out or a least to write the unclear words out to verified them later.
I have a vague memory of finding that dull too. :-)

There's a film version currently available on Arte.tv, perhaps watching that would help?

I think the first French books I read were easy readers from the library, and translations of Enid Blyton's famous five books (le club des cinq). The Petit Nicolas stories are pretty funny.


I read the Petit Nicolas in Polish of all things! No easy book for me in French.
Les mystères... is a very easy book but very very boring. I took it because I have not read a French book in more than a year and I wanted to practice the French pronunciation before picking up the language seriously. I think it was a bad selection. Too bad, I am already 40 % in, so I am driving on. The most I can read is about 5 % per day. It really puts me to sleep. What a drag!
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Re: Italian, French, Polish, and no more

Postby Jean-Luc » Fri Feb 04, 2022 1:45 pm

Try instead les nouveaux mystères de Paris d'Hector Malet avec les personnages de l'inspecteur Nestor Burma et de sa secrétaire Hélène. You will explore 8 districts of Paris with 8 investigations ...
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Les_Nouve ... s_de_Paris[img]
https://actualitte.com/livres/285697/le ... stor-burma
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Postby lusan » Fri Feb 04, 2022 3:47 pm

Jean-Luc wrote:Try instead les nouveaux mystères de Paris d'Hector Malet avec les personnages de l'inspecteur Nestor Burma et de sa secrétaire Hélène. You will explore 8 districts of Paris with 8 investigations ...
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Les_Nouve ... s_de_Paris[img]
https://actualitte.com/livres/285697/le ... stor-burma


I will look into it.

I found it for $54 at Amazon per the whole collection. It seems a good deal ($0.01/page) though there are comments like

wrote:"Nombreuses fautes dues à une numérisation mal contrôlée (il y a même quelques phrases totalement absurdes), la relecture a été bâclée.

Dommage également qu'il manque une table des matières, ou au moins un index des romans."

I will look at a sample.
Thanks.
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Re: Italian, French, Polish, and no more

Postby BeaP » Fri Feb 04, 2022 5:20 pm

I've also found Le Mystère de la chambre jaune extremely boring. I felt like it was going around in circles, leading to nowhere. I abandoned it without feeling any guilt. The film was equally boring and unnecessarily artsy. I only saw the first 30 minutes, and couldn't continue. If you want something easy and full of twists and turns, I recommend Guillaume Musso. It's trash, but quite good for language learning. Search for 'Guillaume Musso livre audio' on youtube.
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Postby lusan » Fri Feb 04, 2022 10:45 pm

I just discovered among my books seasons 1 a 7 de Un village Francais. I saw the first 2 episodes. They are great. I am watching with subtitles in French.

It is a great acting and direction. It reminds me of Czas Honorus about the life during WWII in Warsaw. I like it. I would be fun to watch 1 episode/day. Y yo que pensaba no ver mas peliculas en France! Esto de verlas con subtitulos es nuevo. No creo que sea posible sin ellos, pues a veces no oigo bien lo que dicen los actores. Well, well... Per me è solo un divertimento.
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Re: Italian, French, Polish, and no more

Postby Jean-Luc » Sun Feb 06, 2022 5:45 am

lusan wrote:
Jean-Luc wrote:
I will look into it.

I found it for $54 at Amazon per the whole collection. It seems a good deal ($0.01/page) though there are comments like

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https://www.lalibrairie.com/livres/rech ... f6VL15m_QA
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Re: Italian, French, Polish, and no more

Postby lusan » Sun Feb 06, 2022 3:18 pm

6. La Predatrice, vol 1 - Norma Tarditi -- 282 pag

Me gustó mucho este libro. Es la primera novela de fantasia que he leido en italiano. Un poco infantil, un poco de cosas de teenagers, pero escrita de una manera molto elegante. La trama continua... pero tantos libros a leer....!

Reevaluando, como siempre, que diablo voy ha hacer con el france!... como mejorar la audicion.... pues claro, oyendo y mucho... but there is so little time and il y autant de livres a lire!

Maybe shadowing of Harry Potter, vol 1, might help. Just a thought.
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Re: Italian, French, Polish, and no more

Postby lusan » Sun Feb 06, 2022 3:26 pm

Jean-Luc wrote:
lusan wrote:
Jean-Luc wrote:
I will look into it.

I found it for $54 at Amazon per the whole collection. It seems a good deal ($0.01/page) though there are comments like

.


https://www.lalibrairie.com/livres/rech ... f6VL15m_QA


Thanks but it seems is a broken link.
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