French/Latin/Italian by the nature method

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Re: French/Latin/Italian by the nature method

Postby daegga » Wed Jun 08, 2022 7:02 pm

Italian
  • re-read the last 10 chapters of Naturmetoden (with dictionary lookups)
  • watched Vendo cara la Pelle (1968)
  • watched 1 season of Bang Bang Baby
  • watched 1 season of Curon
  • watched Scusate se esisto!

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Re: French/Latin/Italian by the nature method

Postby daegga » Thu Jun 09, 2022 8:47 pm

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  • watched Nikita (Luc Besson, 1990)
  • read La petite fille de M. Linh by Philippe Claudel
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Re: French/Latin/Italian by the nature method

Postby einzelne » Thu Jun 09, 2022 9:08 pm

daegga wrote:Italian
  • re-read the last 10 chapters of Naturmetoden (with dictionary lookups)


How do you feel about rereading? I read Chapters 10-50 in about a week, looking up and highlighting new words. Some chapters are good, some are rather boring (although I really appreciate how they introduce and repeat new grammar structures — and this the main reason why I pushed myself through the book). And I got a feeling that not all of 5k words they claim this book introduce are that frequent, statistically speaking.
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Re: French/Latin/Italian by the nature method

Postby daegga » Fri Jun 10, 2022 2:27 pm

This was my third read through the book, the first 2 were without lookups. My main motivation was to prepare for the follow-up book (the introduction to literature). The last chapters were a drag, lack of motivation to go on. In hindsight, other (reading + TV) activity was more fruitful than the 3rd read. Seeing high frequency vocabulary in more contexts is probably better than rereading story specific vocabulary in the same contexts. I needed a lot more dictionary lookups in earlier chapters than in those last 10, and I think mainly because of lack of other activities back then. I still get a lot of unknown vocabulary in the sequel, but it's readable.
The hard thing is to find alternatives at the right level. The Olly Richards reader for intermediates seemed about right for reenforcement. All other graded readers were far too easy.

I think we get about 3.5k-4k out of the most frequent 5k with the Nature Method, based on the vocabulary tests I did.
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Re: French/Latin/Italian by the nature method

Postby einzelne » Fri Jun 10, 2022 7:53 pm

daegga wrote:Seeing high frequency vocabulary in more contexts is probably better than rereading story specific vocabulary in the same contexts.


I totally agree. As I said, my main goal was to internalize grammar patterns and I think this book does it well. As for vocabulary, I highlighted all looked up words but something tells me that I won't return to this book for vocabulary review. I learn Italian just for pure pleasure or, rather, for stress control, so I didn't set any goals or deadlines. Now I simply try to read non-fiction books on familiar topics on my Kindle app at least 30 minutes a day. I started 3 months ago (as a false beginner who once went through Assimil and a dozen of adapted books) and I can definitely feel the difference!
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Re: French/Latin/Italian by the nature method

Postby daegga » Mon Jun 20, 2022 8:33 pm

Italian
  • watched 1 season of Luna Nera
  • watched Solo cose belle
  • read La Bibbia - Giosuè

French
  • read Où on va, Papa? by Jean-Louis Fournier
  • read Le Petit Prince by Antoine de Saint-Exupéry
  • watched Une heure de tranquillité
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Re: French/Latin/Italian by the nature method

Postby daegga » Sat Jul 02, 2022 5:57 pm

Italian
  • watched 2 seasons of Another Life (dubbed)
  • watched 3 seasons of Lost in Space (dubbed)
  • read Introduzione alla letteratura italiana

French
  • read L'étranger by Albert Camus
  • read Ni d'Eve ni d'Adam by Amélie Nothomb
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Re: French/Latin/Italian by the nature method

Postby daegga » Sat Jul 16, 2022 6:19 pm

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Re: French/Latin/Italian by the nature method

Postby daegga » Mon Jul 18, 2022 5:31 pm

French
  • read Stupeur et tremblements by Amélie Nothomb

Italian
  • read 3 graded readers (B1, B2, C1)
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Re: French/Latin/Italian by the nature method

Postby daegga » Fri Jul 29, 2022 5:03 pm

French
  • read Le journal de Yalda by Yalda Rahimi

Italian
  • watched The Expanse seasons 1-3 (dubbed)
  • read 2 Topolino magazines (comics)
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