Pinkyslippers' 2021 study log (Spanish, Korean, French)

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Pinkyslippers' 2021 study log (Spanish, Korean, French)

Postby pinkyslippers » Mon Apr 12, 2021 10:12 am

2021 Progress Tracker

Korean

세종 한국어 1: 5 / 12
세종 한국어 2: 0 / 12
비타민 한국어 1: 4 / 15
TTMIK Level 1: 25 / 25
TTMIK How Korean Sentences Work: 29 / 29
Easy Korean Reading for Beginners: 1 / 30
연세 한국어 읽기 1: 0 / 40
Korean Listening Skills: 0 / 17
TTMIK IYAGI Beginner: 2 / 10

Spanish

10,000 pages of reading: 5112 / 10000
10,000 minutes of listening: 5734 / 10000

Kwiziq:

Kwiziq A0: 100 / 100
Kwiziq A1: 100 / 100
Kwiziq A2: 100 / 100
Kwiziq B1: 28 / 100
Kwiziq B2: 0 / 100
Kwiziq C1: 0 / 100

French

5000 pages of reading: 946 / 5000
5000 minutes of listening: 2199 / 5000

Grammaire en dialogues B1: 2 / 32
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Re: Pinkyslippers' 2021 study log (Spanish, Korean, French)

Postby pinkyslippers » Wed Apr 14, 2021 2:32 pm

Books/audiobooks read in Spanish 2021

Ratings from 1* (hated it) to 5* (loved it)

Un gato en el palomar, Agatha Christie (ebook, 256 pages, finished 09/01/21)
Rating: ★★★☆☆

La dictadura: Historia secreta de Chile, Jorge Baradit (audiobook, 317 mins, finished 23/01/21)
Rating: ★★★★☆

La ventana alta, Raymond Chandler (ebook, 288 pages, finished 26/01/21)
Rating: ★★★★☆

Black star, Jesper Ersgård (audiobook series, 569 mins, finished 30/01/21)
Rating: ★★★☆☆

Se anuncia un asesinato, Agatha Christie (ebook, 256 pages, finished 15/02/21)
Rating: ★★★☆☆

Llamadme Alejandra, Espido Freire (ebook, abandoned 28/02/21)
☠ DNF @ 17%

Todo lo que necesito existe ya en mí, Rupi Kaur (audiobook, 68 mins, finished 20/03/21)
Rating: ★★☆☆☆

En los zapatos de Valeria, Elísbet Benavent (ebook, abandoned 14/04/21)
☠ DNF @ 7%

La muerte visita al dentista, Agatha Christie (ebook, 238 pages, finished 25/04/21)
Rating: ★★★☆☆

Tras los pasos de Jane Austen, Espido Freire (ebook, abandoned 17/05/21)
☠ DNF @ 41%

Los peligros de fumar en la cama, Mariana Enríquez (ebook, abandoned 23/05/21)
☠ DNF @ 18%

Espía de Dios, Juan Gomez-Jurado (ebook, 318 pages, abandoned 24/05/21)
☠ DNF @ 48%

Hernán Cortés: Una biografía para el siglo XXI, Esteban Mira Caballos (ebook, 552 pages, abandoned 08/06/21)
☠ DNF @ p.120

Las hermanas Romanov, Helen Rappaport (ebook, 467 pages not including notes, finished 17/06/21)
Rating: ★★★★☆

El misterio de la guía de ferrocarriles, Agatha Christie (paperback, 267 pages, finished 19/06/21)
Rating: ★★★☆☆

Mexicoland, Jaime Alfonso Sandoval (ebook, 412 pages, finished 28/06/21)
Rating: ★★★☆☆

Manual de limpieza de un monje budista, Keisuke Matsumoto (ebook, 172 pages, finished 04/07/21)
Rating: ★★★☆☆
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Re: Pinkyslippers' 2021 study log (Spanish, Korean, French)

Postby pinkyslippers » Wed Apr 14, 2021 2:40 pm

Books/audiobooks read in French 2021

Ratings from 1* (hated it) to 5* (loved it)

Coiffeur pour dames: Agatha Raisin enquête 8, M C Beaton (audiobook, 327 mins, finished 05/01/21)
Rating : ★★★☆☆

Randonnée mortelle: Agatha Raisin enquête 4, M C Beaton (audiobook, 275 mins, finished 20/01/21)
Rating: ★★★★☆

Une histoire de France - tome 1 - La dalle rouge, Thomas Kotlarek (graphic novel, 64 pages, finished 02/02/21)
Rating: ★★★★☆

Le journal de Bridget Jones, Helen Fielding (ebook, 342 pages, finished 17/04/21)
Rating: ★★★★☆

La taupe, John le Carré (ebook, 412 pages, finished 29/05/21)
Rating: ★★★★★
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Re: Pinkyslippers' 2021 study log (Spanish, Korean, French)

Postby pinkyslippers » Tue Apr 27, 2021 7:43 am

So, I’ve been making a few changes to my log. The old log has gone and I’ve started a new one for 2021 (a little late as we are already in Q2, but no matter). Everything has been ticking along but for the past year I have had the sensation of just spinning my wheels – I’m doing everything I usually do but not progressing at all. This is especially true for Spanish, as I took the iTalki test yesterday and was placed at B1 for both speaking and grammar. Kwiziq also places me at B1.

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After quite a bit of thought, I decided to withdraw from the Super Challenge (the SC was the reason I joined this forum in the first place) for a number of reasons, but mainly as I found the limitations on what counted a little frustrating. So instead I am doing my own ‘10,000’ reading and listening challenge, where I can include anything for the listening part (including YouTube shorts, which I watch a lot), as long as it is active listening. Having the radio on in the background doesn’t count. The aim is to reach 10,000 pages of reading and 10,000 minutes of listening. The reading part is going to take a while, for sure. I have also withdrawn from the other challenges I was in, I guess I just took on too many challenges and burned out a bit.

I’ve always resisted time tracking my language study but from 1st May I have decided to start tracking as an experiment. Am I really doing as much as I think I am? I suspect not, and if it turns out that I am only studying 3 hours per week then it’s no surprise that I am not progressing at all as I probably need to clock up another 300 hours or so to at least start nudging B2.

In other language news, I have found a really good Korean teacher on iTalki, I study one hour with her per week and it’s great. I am still using the Sejong textbooks and Professor Yoon’s videos on YouTube, making slow progress but that is OK. I’m still a beginner, but I watch a lot of K-drama, and in the back of my mind I have a vague goal that I would like to do the next SC in Korean (I could easily do a double SC for the film portion), which means I have a year to get to the point where I can start reading books that aren’t designed for pre-schoolers…

I’ve had a number of false starts with Galician, I have removed it from my log title and I am shelving it, for now. The Instituto Cervantes in London regularly offers Galician courses for beginners, but they rarely get enough people signed up to be able to run it. My name is always down and if I ever get on a viable course that will be my start point, otherwise I will probably wait until my Spanish gets to at least B2 level. Maybe I’ll just let it go, I’m not sure at this point.

I’m going to try to update my log more. Sometimes I feel embarrassed, there are so many high-fliers on here. But a language log is a personal thing, it’s just for me so I have something to look back on and (hopefully) see my improvement over time, things that worked/didn’t work and so on.
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Re: Pinkyslippers' 2021 study log (Spanish, Korean, French)

Postby clara » Sun May 09, 2021 6:29 pm

Interesting, I didn't realize Italki had language proficiency tests! How does it compare to other online tests? I see that it's not free. Having done it, would you do it again vs. paying for an Italki session with a tutor who specializes in DELE evaluation? I have been thinking of doing the latter, but then I keep talking myself out of it saying it wouldn't change anything since I know I have a lot of room for improvement in all the skills.

Good luck with your reading and listening challenge! I suspect a lot of people would prefer a listening challenge to the structure of the Super Challenge and that you're not alone. I do like that Netflix makes it easy to track because it keeps a history. I tracked other sources of listening for a couple weeks and found it eye opening to put some numbers to it -- way less than I suspected. I guess Youtube also keeps a history if you are signed in, but I'm often not, and I tune out a lot during Youtube videos or leave them running in the background so my history isn't representative of what I've actually listened to.
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Re: Pinkyslippers' 2021 study log (Spanish, Korean, French)

Postby pinkyslippers » Mon May 10, 2021 8:08 am

Hi Clara

Thanks for your message and I hope your recovery is progressing well.

clara wrote:Interesting, I didn't realize Italki had language proficiency tests! How does it compare to other online tests? I see that it's not free. Having done it, would you do it again vs. paying for an Italki session with a tutor who specializes in DELE evaluation? I have been thinking of doing the latter, but then I keep talking myself out of it saying it wouldn't change anything since I know I have a lot of room for improvement in all the skills.


There is quite a bit of discussion about the iTalki level test here https://forum.language-learners.org/vie ... 14&t=16750 by people on the forum who are much more knowledgeable than me, but I was intrigued enough to pay the money to be able to get a ‘quick and dirty’ assessment of my level. There are two parts. First is the speaking test, which consists of listening and repeating a number of sentences which increase in length and complexity. I was terrible at that part and found it very frustrating as it seemed more like a test of memory to me, but in the link to the discussion above you can see that Cavesa explains the research behind this and how it links to language proficiency. Then there are some free speaking sections where you have to answer some simple questions such as what is your favourite book/tell us about your family etc. The second part is grammar questions, I think some were multiple choice and some were fill-in-the-blank but I can’t remember too much about it now, sorry! I might take it again at the end of the year to see if it has changed at all but I’m not sure – I couldn’t really find any clear information about scoring. For example, I scored in the early 500s but I’m not sure what score moves you up to B2 – they don’t give you a more precise level such as B1.2. It’s possible that this information is out there somewhere and I just overlooked it. In terms of the DELE it doesn’t compare at all and I don’t think it would be good as a preparation measure or as a guide to know which exam to take. I’ve taken the DELE exam at the lower levels (A1 and A2) and this iTalki test wouldn’t really have told me anything at all. Most Instituto Cervantes will give you a comprehensive level test either for free or for a nominal fee and I would recommend doing this if you have a centre near you as you get to talk to an actual human examiner (the iTalki test is all scored by computer). I’ve never tried an iTalki tutor who specialises in DELE evaluation and preparation so I can’t give any advice on that, sorry. Member kelvin921019 here took and passed the DELE B2 last November I think and if you aren't already their log is well worth following although they are focused more on Japanese right now.

clara wrote:Good luck with your reading and listening challenge! I suspect a lot of people would prefer a listening challenge to the structure of the Super Challenge and that you're not alone. I do like that Netflix makes it easy to track because it keeps a history. I tracked other sources of listening for a couple weeks and found it eye opening to put some numbers to it -- way less than I suspected. I guess Youtube also keeps a history if you are signed in, but I'm often not, and I tune out a lot during Youtube videos or leave them running in the background so my history isn't representative of what I've actually listened to.


Thanks! I'm glad you are logging again - you are an inspiration! I feel so lazy compared to you :lol:
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Postby clara » Tue May 11, 2021 4:27 pm

Thanks for the link to the discussion about the test, lots of great info! I was curious how the Italki test might compare to the DELE since they both attempt to gauge CEFR level. Unfortunately, the nearest Cervantes Institute is a flight away for me, and I don't know if they're even currently staffed.

Don't feel lazy! I have lots of free time and can get a bit obsessive, I know it won't last. I'm impressed by those who have been going steadily for years, no matter the pace.
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Re: Pinkyslippers' 2021 study log (Spanish, Korean, French)

Postby MorkTheFiddle » Tue Jun 01, 2021 6:45 pm

pinkyslippers wrote:May 2021 review
I downloaded the TV5 Monde Apprendre app and spent some time playing with it. It shows clips of TV shows (you can choose by theme) which you listen to and then have to answer questions. Considering it is completely free it seems excellent to me.

Agreed it is excellent. Thanks for mentioning it. I just downloaded the app and did the first lesson of the A1 level about smoking in public in Canada. Embarrassing to understand so little of the spoken dialogue, even though I enjoyed the challenge of the dialogue and the questions.

The app has some similarities to LUPA, which I subscribed to for a year, which has some extraordinary stories and which challenges in a pleasant way. "Easy" though it seems, I find it taxing on the brain to do more than one story at a time. But I was wanting to find something similar for French, and TV5's app seems to fill the bill.
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Re: Pinkyslippers' 2021 study log (Spanish, Korean, French)

Postby Araminta » Tue Jun 01, 2021 7:05 pm

I love your charts and graphs. How do you keep track of how much time you spend on each category? Do you use an app? I aspire to gather so much data to play with.
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