Road to B1 in Dutch

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Re: Road to B1 in Dutch

Postby Ug_Caveman » Mon Jan 02, 2023 2:18 am

Les 31 is voltooid - EN ik maakte geen fouten :D

Ik voel m'n studeren heel verbeterd is dan vroeger. Mijn brein werkt nu goede, in tegenstellingen tot december toen alles kapot was.

Ik heb ongeveer 15 of 16 verder lessen te studeren. Als ik snel werkt, zou ik februari met de hele cursus voltooid, en dan schrijf ik de (het?) CNaVT Maatschappelijk Informeel in.
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Re: Road to B1 in Dutch

Postby Ug_Caveman » Thu Jan 05, 2023 1:24 am

Les 33 - Eugh - dit was vreselijk.

Ik vond het passief heel moeilijk. Misschien begrijp ik het passief in het engels niet genoeg om het in het nederlands te begrijpen? Ik maakte veel fouten in deze les en ik voel me een beetje... Kwaad. Ik heb nooit eerder zoveel fouten gemaakt.

Maar dit is waarom ik studeer, om mezelf te verbeteren. Ik heb nog vijf maanden voor het examen om te leren en te oefenen.

Ik zal een beetje lezen doen voordat ik ga naar slapen. Ik heb vandaag in het post een paar nieuwe boeken ontvangen.
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Re: Road to B1 in Dutch

Postby Ug_Caveman » Fri Jan 06, 2023 12:35 am

Decided to give the B1 practise papers a spin - found out the hard way that they don't come with the *whole* audio.

One of them (the one about social media) I was very comfortable with and the other, while not as strong, really wasn't that bad either. Just a shame I couldn't listen to the entire clips.

Slightly less aprehensive given I've got another five months to study and train my skills.
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Re: Road to B1 in Dutch

Postby Ug_Caveman » Sun Jan 08, 2023 1:45 am

No Linguaphone tonight as I have a university exam on Monday and wanted to do some revision instead.

Finished one of my lower-level Dutch readers though (quite the task given how many mistakes there were...) and will start reading some monolingual children's books from next week. Also been watching one episode of Dutch with Kim per night to train listening skills.
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Re: Road to B1 in Dutch

Postby Ug_Caveman » Mon Jan 09, 2023 1:11 am

Same as last night - no Linguaphone given I have an exam tomorrow morning.

Still gonna do a bit of light reading and listening.

Have very annoyingly lost my copy of Teach Yourself Complete Danish which has thrown a little spanner in my future plans. Hoping to find it because I'd rather not spend £30 on a replacement :|
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Re: Road to B1 in Dutch

Postby Le Baron » Mon Jan 09, 2023 2:03 am

Permit me...

Ug_Caveman wrote:Les 31 is voltooid - EN ik maakte geen fouten :D

Ik voel m'n studeren heel verbeterd is dan vroeger (Ik heb het gevoel dat mijn studie vooruit is gegaan). Mijn brein werkt nu goede (beter), in tegenstellingen tot december toen alles kapot was.

Ik heb (nog) ongeveer 15 of 16 verder lessen te (leren/doen (lesjes zijn 'geleerd' en niet gestudeerd) ) studeren. Als ik snel werkt, zou ik (tegen) februari (klaar zijn) met de hele cursus voltooid ('voltooid' as meaning completed isn't incorrect, but it's more for things like buildings, paintings, projects etc. Think more 'af' and 'klaar'...'mijn werk is af...mijn cursus is nu helemaal af, ik ben er klaar mee...'), en dan schrijf ik de (het?) CNaVT Maatschappelijk Informeel in. (not sure what is being said)


Ug_Caveman wrote:Ik zal een beetje lezen doen voordat ik ga naar slapen (voordat ik ga slapen/voordat ik naar bed ga). Ik heb vandaag in het (de..!) post een paar nieuwe boeken ontvangen.


Edit: Sorry! I see now you have an exam in the morning, I hope I didn't put you off! (Damn).
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Re: Road to B1 in Dutch

Postby Ug_Caveman » Mon Jan 09, 2023 3:02 pm

Le Baron wrote:Permit me...

Ug_Caveman wrote:Als ik snel werkt, zou ik (tegen) februari (klaar zijn) met de hele cursus voltooid ('voltooid' as meaning completed isn't incorrect, but it's more for things like buildings, paintings, projects etc. Think more 'af' and 'klaar'...'mijn werk is af...mijn cursus is nu helemaal af, ik ben er klaar mee...'), en

Vooltoid always sounded wrong to me in my head so thanks for pointing that out.

Ug_Caveman wrote:dan schrijf ik de (het?) CNaVT Maatschappelijk Informeel in. (not sure what is being said)

I was trying to say when I finish the Linguaphone course I'd likely feel comfortable entering for the CNaVT B1 exam.
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Re: Road to B1 in Dutch

Postby Le Baron » Mon Jan 09, 2023 3:12 pm

Dan zou ik me klaar voelen om me in te (kunnen) schrijven voor de CNaVT B1 examen..?

That even gave me a headache!
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Re: Road to B1 in Dutch

Postby Ug_Caveman » Mon Jan 09, 2023 3:23 pm

Le Baron wrote:Dan zou ik me klaar voelen om me in te (kunnen) schrijven voor de CNaVT B1 examen..?

That even gave me a headache!


"en dan schrijf ik de (het?) CNaVT Maatschappelijk Informeel in."

I was just trying to use 'inschrijven' as a separable verb.
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Re: Road to B1 in Dutch

Postby Le Baron » Mon Jan 09, 2023 3:36 pm

Ug_Caveman wrote:I was just trying to use 'inschrijven' as a separable verb.

I get the feeling - are you an academic btw? - that you tend toward difficult constructions. It's probably normal for educated people. I used to worry about sounding 'less educated' in Dutch, because somehow, and very unlike French whose educated register is similar to English, it used to feel like I was using unsophisticated language. This is not knocking Dutch, but I've found that what appears to educated ears and eyes in English as 'simple' is actually perfectly good Dutch fro the Dutch point-of-view. I feel okay now defaulting to 'simpler' constructions. Though I know there is a level of Dutch with more complication, yet that is just like overblown constructions in English.

With that said, I'd feel myself drawn to something pared down like:

dan schrijf ik me in voor...dan meld ik me aan voor...

Dan zou ik me in kunnen schrijven/dan zou ik me kunnen inschrijven/aanmelden
(also possible)

Believe me, on an exam they'll enjoy well-constructed simplicity above complication with minor errors.
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