neofight78 wrote:smallwhite wrote:Yes. While MY 5000 words, ...
Go back and read my post. I've posted best case scenarios for 5000 words, the frequency of the words is irrelevant.
My post above was for Arnaud, whose post was before yours.
I've been explaining and re-explaining in vain, but I think I get it now. Let me try again.
This sentence by Arnaud is simply not true: "Smallwhite wrote in a previous message that with 5000 words in greek she knows 90% of the words of her book".
This part is true: "in greek she knows 90% of the words of her book".
But this part is not true: "with 5000 words in greek".
Looking at how you two present your numbers, apparently you only know words that are in your notebook/Anki and you do not know other words. I, on the other hand, study and read differently. So, forget that "5000" figure, which was stated by Arnaud and not by me in the first place and misused. I do not know 5000 words. I know maybe 10,000 words.
Smallwhite has about 5,000 flashcards in Greek.
Smallwhite knows maybe 10,000 words in Greek.I hope everything is clear now.
neofight78 wrote:
In short, Arnaud is indeed a hero for finishing Человек-амфибия, especially considering he was using a paper dictionary. He is also right to moan about the amount of vocabulary needed to read Russian fiction.
Maybe I'm misinterpreting your message, but thought I'd quote the below just to be clear - it was Arnaud himself who said his method didn't work, not me:
Arnaud wrote:
... That neverending list of unknown vocab is depressing...
... It's frustrating. Russian is frustrating and the more I progress the more I feel my knowledge of that language is superficial and fragile. Something definitively didn't work, but I don't know what: perhaps the lack of teachers to explain why this and not that. I've too many unanswered questions and they keep on accumulating.
And I did not think he was moaning incorrectly, in fact I said the exact oppose - I would moan, too, if I didn't use Quizlet, so I brought up Quizlet.
Arnaud wrote:Do you see German or Greek in my profile ?
My level of german is probably A0.5 no more, how can I compare carrots and apples ?
In fact I've read in
Blaurebel's log that you learned russian during at least 100 hours, so you're better placed than me to answer your own question.
No, I don't see Russian on your profile nor on mine, but this comparison between Greek and Russian was actually started by
you yourself and I was only continuing it:
Arnaud wrote:
russian...
2. The quantity of vocab you need is astronomical...
3. How many words, then ? Smallwhite wrote in a previous message that with 5000 words in greek she knows 90% of the words of her book. Well, with 5000 words in russian, you ...
Myself after having read Assimil (sans peine+perfectionnement) which gives about 7500 words and the textbook of Patapova which gives 8000 words, I was unable to read children books. I had to add several graded-readers and transcripts of series during a long time to be able to reach a level where I could start to read and be under 10% of unknown words.
It's fine if you do not want to continue your comparison of Greek and Russian now, but please know that I was only continuing your comparison. I've been trying to let you know that the "5000" number there was incorrect, and was hoping for a revised comparison from you. But if you do not want to revise your comparison then nevermind. Thank you for your time.
And neofight78, you do not need to revise your calculations based on my new figure of 10,000 either. I can crunch the numbers myself. Thank you for the data.