2020 - C1 in German by june

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Re: 2020 - Advancing in German

Postby tungemål » Sun Feb 23, 2020 9:42 pm

Going through "B Grammatik" Übungsgrammatik. It feels like a chore and it is like I am back in high school again. However, it is definitely useful to brush up on the grammar.
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Re: 2020 - Advancing in German

Postby tungemål » Tue Mar 03, 2020 1:07 pm

I am now reviewing 100 Anki cards everyday. I still got more than 1000 young cards in Anki that I have added over the recent months, and I need to get through them. It will go quicker now that I "retired" the old cards in the deck.

My current German routine, that I try to do every day:
- 100 Anki reviews
- A few pages of the "Übungsgrammatik"
- Listen to or watch German media. For the time being I usually listen to the latest news on Deutschlandfunk.

In addition I have these long-term goals:
- completing 12 Tatort episodes
- writing 10 essays
- Doing some more real conversations over skype or in person.
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Re: 2020 - Advancing in German

Postby tungemål » Wed Mar 04, 2020 9:56 pm

I have noticed that German has a lot of idioms. Especially after having watched a couple of Tatort episodes, and that is one thing that makes it hard to follow. So far I have saved 30 idioms.
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Re: 2020 - Advancing in German

Postby jeffers » Thu Mar 05, 2020 10:40 am

tungemål wrote:I have noticed that German has a lot of idioms. Especially after having watched a couple of Tatort episodes, and that is one thing that makes it hard to follow. So far I have saved 30 idioms.


It would be great if you made a note of them in your log! :)
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Re: 2020 - Advancing in German

Postby tungemål » Thu Mar 05, 2020 12:12 pm

Good idea.

Here are the idioms I have notated. They are all taken from Tatort and various youtube-videos. Maybe someone could tell us if all of these are common in everyday speech, and if not which ones are most common?

jmd/etw(dat) auf die Schliche kommen
sich ins Hemd machen
jemanden auf den Arm nehmen
auf der Hand liegen
etwas in Schuss halten
eine saubere Weste haben
Geld wie heu haben
mit etw nichts am Hut haben
den Ball flach halten
auf den Busch klopfen
jemanden in die Mangel nehmen
um den dreh
etwas an die große Glocke hängen
jemandem auf den Keks gehen
sich(dat) jmd vorknöpfen
etw. auf Vordermann bringen
man dreht durch
etwas über den Haufen werfen
wie aus Eimern gießen
jemanden im Regen stehen lassen
sich kein Bein ausreißen
jemandem um den Bart gehen
auf dem Schlauch stehen
sich(akk) aus dem Staub machen
etw. wie seine Westentasche kennen
über die Stränge schlagen
Das muss man in Kauf nehmen
Um den heißen Brei herumreden

These are from an episode on idioms on Easy German:
unter aller Sau
Alter Schwede
Ich mach' mich vom Acker
die Kuh vom Eis kriegen / holen
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Re: 2020 - Advancing in German

Postby tungemål » Sun Mar 08, 2020 12:55 pm

I have read the short-story "Der Hungerkünstler" by Kafka. Since it is so short I can say that I have read Kafka in German, without having spent too much effort. :mrgreen: I don't think I will have the determination or time to read "Der Prozess".

Interesting story, however. Kafka is not too hard to read, allthough a couple of those extremely long sentences I had to read several times before I managed to get a hold of them.
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Re: 2020 - Advancing in German

Postby Kraut » Mon Mar 09, 2020 1:44 am

tungemål wrote:Good idea.

Here are the idioms I have notated. They are all taken from Tatort and various youtube-videos. Maybe someone could tell us if all of these are common in everyday speech, and if not which ones are most common?

jmd/etw(dat) auf die Schliche kommen
sich ins Hemd machen
jemanden auf den Arm nehmen
auf der Hand liegen
etwas in Schuss halten
eine saubere Weste haben
Geld wie heu haben
mit etw nichts am Hut haben
den Ball flach halten
auf den Busch klopfen
jemanden in die Mangel nehmen
um den dreh
etwas an die große Glocke hängen
jemandem auf den Keks gehen
sich(dat) jmd vorknöpfen
etw. auf Vordermann bringen
man dreht durch
etwas über den Haufen werfen
wie aus Eimern gießen
jemanden im Regen stehen lassen
sich kein Bein ausreißen
jemandem um den Bart gehen
auf dem Schlauch stehen
sich(akk) aus dem Staub machen
etw. wie seine Westentasche kennen
über die Stränge schlagen
Das muss man in Kauf nehmen
Um den heißen Brei herumreden

These are from an episode on idioms on Easy German:
unter aller Sau
Alter Schwede
Ich mach' mich vom Acker
die Kuh vom Eis kriegen / holen


I had to look up " sich ins Hemd machen" and found
"1. Angst haben 2. sich wegen einer Kleinigkeit aufregen"
The word "machen" means "to shit": in the past the shirts were longer
I would use this expression instead:
https://de.wiktionary.org/wiki/sich_in_die_Hose_machen

All the others are very common. I think these expressions are part of the most advanced level in the colloquial/semi-colloquial style of German. All are metaphors/chunks.

You might be interested in Schemann's Idiomatik

https://archive.org/details/HansScherma ... t/mode/2up

You can also get Schemann's bilingual Idiomatik for Spanish and French at 14.95 Euro
https://www.weltbild.de/artikel/buch/id ... 17085350-1
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Re: 2020 - Advancing in German

Postby tungemål » Sun Mar 15, 2020 11:05 am

I have been listening a lot to news on German radio lately, mostly "Deutschlandfunk" but also "Echo des Tages". I also watched news on German TV. It is interesting to see the current news situation from the German perspective and not only from my country's perspective.

I have noticed how common it is to use the "konjunktiv 1"-form in news broadcasts. Examples: "Die Covid-19 sei mit der spanischen Grippe zu vergleichen" or "Trump wolle die beteiligten Wissenschaftler in die USA holen". It is almost comical how much this form is used, but I guess it makes the statements sound less direct and more elegant.
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Re: 2020 - Advancing in German

Postby tungemål » Sun Mar 22, 2020 1:06 pm

A tip for listening material:
SWR2 Wissen - an interesting podcast where they also publish the full transcript for each episode. One of many excellent German programmes that you can find for free online.
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German - would anyone like to correct a text?

Postby tungemål » Mon Mar 23, 2020 6:35 pm

My German is getting slowly better. I have had a few Italki-lessons and it is beneficial, because I need a lot of practice speaking German.

I would also like to get some exercise writing German. I think the best way is to write a text on a topic and then get it corrected. I am wondering if there are anyone here that would be interested in correcting one of my texts, and in return getting help with a Norwegian text. Any Germans studying Norwegian here?
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