日本語 + Русский + norsk (6WC)

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Re: 日本語 + Русский focus + a little bonus العربية

Postby tarvos » Fri Aug 09, 2019 9:56 am

brilliantyears wrote:It pains me to say this, but taking this intensive Arabic course was a mistake. I clearly wasn't as ready as I thought I was. My burn-out and depression are hitting me hard. Working, then doing three hours of class a day, then on top of that multiple hours of studying to prepare for next day's class... I've only had 4 classes, 11 more to go, and I don't know how I'll do it. Somehow, I suppose.
No surprise, it affects my enjoyment of the course and the language :(


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Re: 日本語 + Русский focus + a little bonus العربية

Postby brilliantyears » Fri Aug 09, 2019 11:48 am

No. I mean, of course yes, but that comes with consequences and just doing the course is preferable to dealing with those.
So I’m just going to hibernate this weekend.
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Re: 日本語 + Русский focus + a little bonus العربية

Postby brilliantyears » Tue Aug 13, 2019 6:42 pm

I suffered. Suffer along with me.

It seems every language class needs at least one hysterisch kutnummer and tbh I love it (I don't think I'll ever get rid of the earworm that is Колобок).

But Sesame Street is pretty cute, I love the song :) For whoever reads Dutch, this article is pretty interesting.

(And I kind of feel like I'm missing out never having seen Russian Sesame Street :o )

Finished 7 out of 15 classes and with that level 1 - technically I'm at CEFR A1.1 now. I'm still putting in a lot of time. Just like with Korean and Russian I had a lot of trouble memorising any vocab at first, but it's starting to get easier. I'm also starting to get used to the script, writing is fine and reading is starting to become easier too (although the guessing-the-vowels-part is still a pain in the ass).

I took a good rest this weekend (with a little studying, homework and reviewing, but not too much) and went into class fresh and rested and I feel a lot better about it now. But who knows how I'll feel by the time it's Friday ;)

I'm now (at the time of writing this) 36 hours and 17 minutes into the 6 Week Challenge :? So there's that.

If anyone has tips on interesting Arabic language stuff that I should watch/listen to, let me know. I have no clue where to start. Pop/rock music, series or movies and the likes. If it's on Spotify or Netflix that's a plus :)
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Re: 日本語 + Русский focus + a little bonus العربية

Postby brilliantyears » Sun Aug 18, 2019 1:37 pm

Week two of Arabic classes is finished. I am glad to say I'm getting the hang of it, so it has also become a lot less tiresome. I had my level 1 exam last Friday and I am fairly sure I did well on it, so that would mean I've passed CEFR level A1.1. Woohoo!

I've got one week (5 classes) left to go, with the level 2 exam at the end (CEFR level A1.2, aka full A1 level).

I'm fairly sure I won't continue after that, at least not actively (except a little DuoLingo, maybe? probably as intensively as Chinese :lol: aka super lowkey). Learning Arabic has been a really cool opportunity that I'm grateful for, but I'm still not in love with the language, although I'm appreciating it more and more. I do count 'language learning' as one of my hobbies, but I don't think I can be as indiscriminate towards languages as some polyglots out there. I'm more and more realising I'm not a language hoarder. I love getting to know different languages! But if I don't fall in love, my motivation is approximately zero :P

Anyway! While it lasts, I'm trying to slowly work in more immersion. I do wish I had more time for this on weekdays, and not just weekends. During work hours I'm listening to Arabic music recommended by our teacher, but our tastes in music are... quite different :lol: I started watching some tv shows though - turns out there are a lot of great Dutch documentaries on the Arab world. I love the one I'm watching right now, called Op zoek naar de granaatappel, about two Dutch women (one of Moroccan descent) travelling around the Arab countries while cooking with women there. Food is the connection, but I especially love learning about all these women's lives!


On another note: I'm feeling the Russian itch big time. Classes are most likely cancelled for the upcoming semester due to lack of interest, but I've planned a dozen private classes for me and a couple of classmates :D Glad to be continuing!
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Re: 日本語 + Русский focus + a little bonus العربية

Postby Cèid Donn » Sun Aug 18, 2019 3:32 pm

Congrats on (soon) completing your Arabic class and good luck with continuing with Russian. I understand that feeling of "wow, this isn't an absolutely grueling task for me anymore" feeling! I'm starting to feel that way about Russian with my 6WC.

I do count 'language learning' as one of my hobbies, but I don't think I can be as indiscriminate towards languages as some polyglots out there.


I get what you're saying, but while there are definitely times to let oneself indulge one's curiosity, most people--and I count myself among them here--who have studied multiple languages beyond dabbling do so with some logic behind it, whether they explain that to anyone else or not. Sure, there are a few people out there who can sit down and study another language just because it's something new. But I think those people are the exception. One of the things I've learned over the years is that I personally cannot make any real progress with a language unless I have real motivation to study it. Both time and energy are finite resources, and learning languages consumes a tremendous amount of both. So trust me when I say that most learners, especially once they get to my age, need a solid reason for doing this as oppose to literally any easier pastime. :lol:
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Re: 日本語 + Русский focus + a little bonus العربية

Postby tarvos » Sun Aug 18, 2019 3:44 pm

I'm fairly sure I won't continue after that, at least not actively (except a little DuoLingo, maybe? probably as intensively as Chinese :lol: aka super lowkey). Learning Arabic has been a really cool opportunity that I'm grateful for, but I'm still not in love with the language, although I'm appreciating it more and more. I do count 'language learning' as one of my hobbies, but I don't think I can be as indiscriminate towards languages as some polyglots out there. I'm more and more realising I'm not a language hoarder. I love getting to know different languages! But if I don't fall in love, my motivation is approximately zero :P


Sometimes it can take forever until you fall in love. I hated Spanish for years until I went to Spain.
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Re: 日本語 + Русский focus + a little bonus العربية

Postby brilliantyears » Fri Aug 23, 2019 6:21 pm

Just had my last Arabic class, and my final exam! I think I did well, but we'll see. Should be getting the results this weekend.

Still glad I did this course, but also glad it's over. I'm sure I'd enjoy it a lot more if it was more low-key. In the end I think the intensity was my main problem. It was hard to combine with work, I had basically no social life and I didn't feel rested for even a second. Especially the last week was tough and near the end my brain just... refused.

I'm getting old, life is short, and there are so many other things I enjoy :lol: Now that I've reached this level I don't want to give Arabic up completely. Just for fun I tried to test out of some levels on Duolingo and made it past the second checkpoint fairly easily. My grammar is fine, might have to catch up on some vocab that's used in the Duolingo course.

Anyway! According to the 6WC bot I spent 87 hours and 12 minutes on Arabic in the past three weeks :o (and with that I'm in first place). If y'all wanna catch up, now is the time to do it :lol: I don't know how much more time I'll be spending on Arabic before the end of the challenge, but I do have a few movies and stuff lined up.

On another note: I am now completely addicted to Mashrou' Leila. What an awesome band!


And I watched Lemon Tree ( شجرة ليمون / ‎עץ לימון ):
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Re: 日本語 + Русский focus + a little bonus العربية

Postby Cèid Donn » Sat Aug 24, 2019 3:59 am

I hope you did well on your exam! :geek: Glad your course is over for you but I hope you don't completely fade out of the 6WC.

Anyway! According to the 6WC bot I spent 87 hours and 12 minutes on Arabic in the past three weeks :o (and with that I'm in first place). If y'all wanna catch up, now is the time to do it :lol:


I don't know if I'll be able to catch up with you but I'll try. :twisted: I've had to take it a little easier the past few days due to my heart condition giving me an "Um, am I having a heart attack?" scare the other day, so I've been spending some of my 6WC time lying in bed and doing stuff for my Gaelic SC because it's way easier for me than Russian. It seems the person who was in 3rd place has decided to make their move to oust me from 2nd place today, so I have gotten a little motivation from that! :lol:

Hopefully I can get in some good 6WC study time this weekend, even though Russian is mean to me and makes me feel stupid. :cry:
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Re: 日本語 + Русский focus + a little bonus العربية

Postby brilliantyears » Sat Aug 24, 2019 12:17 pm

Cèid Donn wrote:I hope you did well on your exam! :geek: Glad your course is over for you but I hope you don't completely fade out of the 6WC.

Thanks! I will probably start doing more Russian now that Arabic class is over :)

Cèid Donn wrote:
Anyway! According to the 6WC bot I spent 87 hours and 12 minutes on Arabic in the past three weeks :o (and with that I'm in first place). If y'all wanna catch up, now is the time to do it :lol:


I don't know if I'll be able to catch up with you but I'll try. :twisted: I've had to take it a little easier the past few days due to my heart condition giving me an "Um, am I having a heart attack?" scare the other day, so I've been spending some of my 6WC time lying in bed and doing stuff for my Gaelic SC because it's way easier for me than Russian. It seems the person who was in 3rd place has decided to make their move to oust me from 2nd place today, so I have gotten a little motivation from that! :lol:

Hopefully I can get in some good 6WC study time this weekend, even though Russian is mean to me and makes me feel stupid. :cry:

Ohh you're xgaelicwitch! :D Sorry, I didn't realise before! Take care of your health :( Some online challenge isn't worth risking your health for. How far are you with Russian? :) Maybe we can exchange some tips!
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Re: 日本語 + Русский focus + a little bonus العربية

Postby brilliantyears » Sat Aug 24, 2019 4:08 pm

Just got the news I passed my Arabic exam :D
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