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Re: Dave's log, (German and French)

Postby DaveAgain » Sun Jan 28, 2024 1:54 pm

German
I'm currently reading Ein Pyrenäenbuch (audiobook) by Kurt Tucholsky , this is a collection of articles focused on the Pyrenees region. Apparently even in the 1920s Basque was becoming rare on the French side of the border. This surprised me as I had always blamed television for the loss of minority and languages and regional dialects.

TV
I've been watching a comedy police series, Hubert Ohne Staller, which I like, and after watching an English documentary about the making of Der Himmel über Berlin (UK title: Wings of Desire), I watched a little of the film but while I like the idea of us being surrounded by guardian angels, the film didn't grab me.

French
I've been watching a lot of French films since my last post.

I read an article about the partnership between Gerard Depardieu and Pierre Richard after which I watched Les compères and La Chèvre, two silly but fun comedies.

Then Le Dernier Mètro a film where Mr Depardieu had a fairly small part while Catherine Deneuve was in almost every scene, I thought this might be based on a true story, but wikipedia says not. Jean Marais' memoirs were apparently used by Mr Truffaut when writing the screenplay, presumably they tell of working conditions in Paris theatres in the 1940s.

I tried to find a French dub of Green Card, but ending up watching it in English, and then I went on a little Andie Macdowell spree watching the French language versions of Four Weddings and a Funeral and Groundhog Day. I thought the voice actor doing Ms Macdowell was very good, Ms Macdowell has such a nice voice (wikipedia tells me she grew up in S.Carolina) a voice-over replacement could have been a bit jarring, but she was a good fit.

Then I watched a Patate, another comedy. I chose this as Danielle Darrieux is in the cast, but I think the star of the film is her on-screen husband played by Pierre Dux.
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There is a very good mini-series available on UK TV at the the moment, Une affaire française (UK title: A French Case) which is based on a real-life crime case l'affaire Grègory.

A feature of this story is a series of poison pen letters and anonymous phone calls. In French people who write such letters can be referred to as a Corbeau, this apparently dates back to a successful 1943 film, but the English language subtitles always instead translated Corbeau as Crow, which suggests the translator had not read the French edition of Mrs Christie's A Moving Finger, where do they find such people!

I thought it was a compelling series, and as it had many recognisable actors in small roles it must have been a big-budget production.

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I thought I'd learnt some new slang when I came across l'instant t, but it seems I'm just way behind the times. :-)
Étymologie de « instant t »

(XIXe siècle) D’instant et de l’initiale de temps.
L’usage dans un contexte scientifique de la notation t pour le temps se généralise au XVIIIe siècle, avant de passer petit à petit dans le langage courant.

Après un instant t, la Terre aura parcouru dans ſa trajectoire rectiligne, l’espace […] — (Achille Pierre Dionis du Séjour, Traité analytique des mouvemens apparens des corps célestes, 1789)


https://www.lalanguefrancaise.com/dicti ... nstant-t#1

EDIT
Wim Wenders' Der Himmel über Berlin/Wings of Desire has been adapted into an Opera:
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Re: Dave's log, (German and French)

Postby MorkTheFiddle » Mon Jan 29, 2024 5:54 pm

I have seen Wings of Desire and barely remember it. Did I like it? Dunno.
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Re: Dave's log, (German and French)

Postby DaveAgain » Mon Feb 19, 2024 4:58 pm

German
I'm currently reading Erziehung vor Verdun by Arnold Zweig, I borrowed it from the Goethe eLibrary. This is the 3rd book in a 6 book series:
    1. Der Streit um den Sergeanten Grischa
    2. Junge Frau von 1914
    3. Erziehung vor Verdun
    4. Einsetzung eines Königs
    5. Die Feuerpause
    6. Die Zeit ist reif
CJareck suggested this book to me long ago, I'm only now finally getting around to reading it.

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I found a German language dub of the 1995 BBC Pride and Prejudice mini-series on the interwebs, so I've been watching that. I watched the whole series through twice, before watching the second time, I read a software generated German translation of the English scripts first, and looked up any unknown words.

This series has been repeated so many times on UK TV that I should know it by heart. :-) I used to have the audio from the French language dub on my MP3 player, I replaced that with the German radio adaptation!

French
I lost my early morning reading habit over Christmas and I'm trying to re-establish it.

First thing I read a little of Christophe André's Je Medite, Jour après jour (I have the version without a CD, 9782913366824), and Blaise Pascal's Pensées.

There are lots of radio programmes/YouTube videos about Mr Pascal. He was a maths/science wunderkind, contributing to public scientific debate and developed an early mechanical adding machine, then later in life becoming more interested in Christianity/philosophy. I remember Mr Pascal's Pensées being mentioned as a bedside companion of Coco Chanel in Henry Gidel's biography.
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Two films I've watched and enjoyed are Le dernier des six and l'assassin habite au 21, both adapted from novels by SA Steeman.
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When looking for a radio play adaptation of Jean Giraudoux's La guerre de Troie n'aura pas lieu, I found an audio book version instead, a slightly abbreviated reading offered by Les Livreurs, a group that give performances of, and offer training in, reading aloud.

English
I've finally finished the poetry book (ISBN: 0198121369) I started way back in January 2022! I can now go back and re-read the ones I liked enough to fold down the corner of the page. :-)

One of the last poems I liked enough to bookmark was How to Kill by Keith Douglas, it has some super lines:
He smiles, and moves about in ways his mother knows, habits of his.

Death, like a familiar, hears and look, has made a man of dust of a man of flesh.

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I watched an interesting Lent themed video recently, The Biblical Roots of Ash Wednesday.
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Re: Dave's log, (German and French)

Postby badger » Tue Feb 20, 2024 3:38 am

DaveAgain wrote:Wim Wenders' Der Himmel über Berlin/Wings of Desire has been adapted into an Opera:

there was a Hollywood remake too - City of Angels - with Nicolas Cage and Meg Ryan, which departs from the original somewhat, but is okay as far I recall.
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Re: Dave's log, (German and French)

Postby DaveAgain » Thu Mar 21, 2024 4:43 pm

German
I'm currently reading Selbs Betrug, by Bernhard Schlink. The chapters are very short, 3-5 pages, so I'm writing down all unknown words and then looking them up at the end of each chapter. I did a lot of that with French as I get lots of my French books as PDFs from bnf.fr.

I think writing words down helps one remember them, but I'm not sure where I got that idea from. :-)

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I've not been watching much TV, but I did watch one YouTube video using the Language Reactor plugin for the Chrome web browser, after it was mentioned by GaryB.

One useful feature of it is an "automatic pause" option, which pauses the video at each break of the subtitles, to give you a moment to digest them.

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I've listened to a number of episodes of ARD's Professor van Dusen radio series. Professor Doktor Doktor Doktor van Dusen, der Denkmaschine is a Genius who solves crimes when not busy with his other endeavours. The character was created by an American writer Jaques Futrelle, who unfortunately spent some of his Van Dusen royalties on a ticket for the Titanic's maiden voyage. The van Dusen stories were later adapted for German radio by Michael Koser, and as the character was popular, new stories were written too.

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I'm still using the free version of Clozemaster.com which is limited to 30 sentences a day.

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I'm also watching Fall of Eagles an English language series that covers events in Austria, Prussia, and Russia from ~1860>1918.

French
I'm still starting the day with Christof André's Je medite, jour après jour, and Blaise Pascal's Pensées.

The third season of Astrid et Raphaëlle (UK title: Astrid, murder in Paris) is currently being broadcast on Friday evenings in the UK, so I've started watching that.

I also watched a film les 400 coups, which was mentioned in a Jodie Foster interview, and Un soir de révellion a light comedy-musical, which I chose just because Arletty is in the cast. :-)

EDIT
Selbs Betrug is the second book in a trilogy:
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Re: 10,000 pages of German

Postby DaveAgain » Sat Apr 06, 2024 1:03 pm

badger wrote:
cjareck wrote:
badger wrote:who, so the story goes, mispronounced "Berliner" (person from Berlin) as "Berliner" (the doughnut), although this seems to be something of an urban myth.

I thought that he should say "Ich bin der Berliner" instead of "Ich bin ein Berliner" but I don't know. I would be extremely grateful for an explanation of this since it is a famous speech.

it's famous enough that it has its own wiki page:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ich_bin_ein_Berliner#%22I_am_a_doughnut%22_urban_legend

sorry for the thread hijack Dave!
I'm currrently reading Charles Wheeler's biography (ISBN: 9781786581754). Mr Wheeler was the BBC correspondant in West Berlin at the time, and according to the book the doughnut-Berliner idea was first advanced by the Reuters correspondant Jack Altman, and then repeated by Alistair Cooke in his radio broadcast. (Ch.4, p.136).
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Re: Dave's log, (German and French)

Postby MorkTheFiddle » Sun Apr 07, 2024 12:00 am

My understanding was that if he wanted to say I am a Berliner, then he should have phrased it "Ich bin Berliner." A judgment for German speakers, no doubt.
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