Dave's log, (German and French)

[cjareck]

It seems that I messed up what I could - books and authors As an excuse, I may only say that I was waiting with my daughters in an Orthodontist's office and had only my smartphone.

Just like in that old joke about Radio Erewan "Is it the truth that they give free bikes on the Red Square in Moscow?"
"It true, but in Leningrad, not in Moscow, on the Square of Revolution not on the Red Square, cars not bikes and do not give for free, but steal"

In my case - not "Sieben vor Verdun" but "Erziehung vor Verdun" and not Stephan Zweig, but Arnold Zweig...

But now you have two book recommendations
- Arnold Zweig's "Erziehung vor Verdun"
- Josef Magnus Wehner's "Sieben vor Verdun"

I do not know either of them since I do not read romances.

[DaveAgain]

It seems that I messed up what I could - books and authors As an excuse, I may only say that I was waiting with my daughters in an Orthodontist's office and had only my smartphone.

Just like in that old joke about Radio Erewan "Is it the truth that they give free bikes on the Red Square in Moscow?"
"It true, but in Leningrad, not in Moscow, on the Square of Revolution not on the Red Square, cars not bikes and do not give for free, but steal"

In my case - not "Sieben vor Verdun" but "Erziehung vor Verdun" and not Stephan Zweig, but Arnold Zweig...

But now you have two book recommendations
- Arnold Zweig's "Erziehung vor Verdun"
- Josef Magnus Wehner's "Sieben vor Verdun"

I do not know either of them since I do not read romances.

Erziehung vor Verdun looks more promising.

The Goethe eLibrary have it as an eBook, and there are translations in both French and English.

For English as well as 'Education before Verdun', there is also 'Outside Verdun', I'm not sure if they're just different titles for the same book or two different books.

Thanks again!

[MorkTheFiddle]

Just like in that old joke about Radio Erewan "Is it the truth that they give free bikes on the Red Square in Moscow?"
"It true, but in Leningrad, not in Moscow, on the Square of Revolution not on the Red Square, cars not bikes and do not give for free, but steal"

The joke is so good I'm stealing it!

[DaveAgain]

17. Dienstanweisung für einen Unterteufel, by CS Lewis. 239 pages. Running total: 239 + 2,565 = 2,804 pages

I read each chapter in English, and then read and listened in German.

I was able to borrow an English text from my local library, I bought a German text (ISBN: 9783451068157), and there is amateur German audio on YouTube.

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I'm going to try re-reading the same book a number of times and see if that helps.

[MorkTheFiddle]

It surely will help. Will you add the pages again to your total? I say yes, you should.

[tungemål]

17. Dienstanweisung für einen Unterteufel, by CS Lewis. 239 pages. Running total: 239 + 2,565 = 2,804 pages

I read each chapter in English, and then read and listened in German.

I was able to borrow an English text from my local library, I bought a German text (ISBN: 9783451068157), and there is amateur German audio on YouTube.

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I'm going to try re-reading the same book a number of times and see if that helps.

Do I understand this correctly in that you don´t look up words, but rely on having read the English text first, in order to understand the German text?

[DaveAgain]

Do I understand this correctly in that you don´t look up words, but rely on having read the English text first, in order to understand the German text?

Yes, that's right.

I did read one novel looking up all unknown words (almost every word!), and I thought this would be a better way for me.

[MorkTheFiddle]

Do I understand this correctly in that you don´t look up words, but rely on having read the English text first, in order to understand the German text?

Yes, that's right.

I did read one novel looking up all unknown words (almost every word!), and I thought this would be a better way for me.

Looking up oodles of words is a joy-killer, no doubt about that. Using LWT or the like helps to some extent cause you don't have to look up a word more than once. But the down side of LWT is that you are always stuck with it. I really have second thoughts about ever having started with it. Anyway, and curse you Red Baron, for linking to Kidnapped. I read the first paragraph in German and to my horror realized I understood nearly all of it. Only recently I began reading more Latin and looking into Japanese and even am re-reading a story from Old Norse. It's like some Kafka story where I wake up in the morning and discover I am not a giant bug but, even worse, a LANGUAGE NERD!

[cjareck]

[and curse you Red Baron,

Well, if Manfred von Richthofen is mentioned, he also wrote a book "Der Rote Kampfflieger", that was the first book I read in German I'm pretty sure that there is also an English edition. Please only make sure that they are the same since the original book from 1917 differs from the one from the thirties

[DaveAgain]

Well, if Manfred von Richthofen is mentioned, he also wrote a book "Der Rote Kampfflieger", that was the first book I read in German I'm pretty sure that there is also an English edition. Please only make sure that they are the same since the original book from 1917 differs from the one from the thirties

Gutenberg.org have that in German, English and Finnish. The Goethe Institut eLibrary have a biography by Joachim Castan.