Re: Iversen's second multiconfused log thread
Posted: Mon May 06, 2019 6:51 pm
EN: The main public library in my town has a 'language corner' each Monday from 16 to 18, but the number of participants is minimal, and you never know if there is anybody there to speak to - even in English - and then the number of participants is of course bound to stay near point zero. Today I was lucky: there was an elderly lady who was willing (and able) to have a conversation in French, so among other things we discussed her upcoming champignon collecting excursion to the forests around Silkeborg.
FR: J'ai évidemment mentionné le cas du compositeur Schobert (avec un 'o') et sa famille et leur médécin, qui selon les dictionaires de musique sont lamentablement décédés après avoir mangé un repas basé sur des champignons collectionnés par monsieur Schobert lui-même. Leur médécin s'était porté garant pour l'innocuité des champignons, et il a accepté l'invitation du compositeur à participer dans leur consommation, une décision qu'il a payée avec sa vie. Seul un enfant qui n'aimait pas les champignons a survécu. Belle histoire ... mais madame la collectrice de champignons à laquelle j'eus le plasir de parler aujourd'hui a douté qu'il y ait en Europe des champignons si toxiques qu'ils eussent pu tuer toute une famille si infailliblement qu'une explosion dans un magazin de poudre. Peut-être a-t-elle raison, mais ajoutez la visite d'un autre médécin (ou l'acte hardie de suivre encore une fois les conseils du médécin de la famille) et l'affaire semble un peu plus vraisemblable. Consulter un médécin au milieu du 18. siècle était plus dangereux que d'être fusillé.
SP: Más tarde llegó otra señora (ayudada a encontrarnos por un bibliotecario), un estudiante de arquitectura que estaba muy interesada en un proyecto para integrar plantas - hasta arboles enteros - en edificios. Yo mencioné que esto era un proyecto con raices historicas: comenzó con la reina Semiramis de Babilonia y sus jardines colgantes, que fue una de las siete maravillas de la antiguïdad.
EN: before the session in French I read about a quarter of the Colloquial Ukrainian, which can be motivated by the fact that I'll pass through Lviv sometime next month. It worried me however that one of the texts in the book claimed that it was impossible to buy an Ukranian dictionary in Odessa. I hope it will be possible in Lviv since I have a glaring hole in my dictionary collection with Ukranian, and I really ought to do something about it.
In my last message I mentioned that I went through a number of texts yesterday, so let's do that now - but briefly:
One text in Bulgarian (from fakti.bg) about the Yeti of Himalaya.
BU: Повечето легенди около Йети ги характеризират като някаква маймуна или хуманоид, но EN: in this article it was stated that a recent test based upon DNA analysis had shown that one tissue specimen was from a dog and the rest were from 'coffee bears' (i.e. brown bears) - albeit from a lineage that had been isolated from other brown bears for more than 600.000 years and was considered to be extinct. So if such a critter could be localized it would be a discovery almost at the level of catching a live yeti.
The next text was about the Doric dialect (and in Greek), but I have already mentioned that one.
The third text (from tech.sme.sk) was in Slovakian and described the find of the first moon outside our solar system - but no ordinary Moon. The 'mother planet' is in itself massive, one of the socalled super Jupiters, and the moon is thought to be around the size of the planet Neptune. SLOK: Samozrejme je ťažké nájsť mesiace mimo našej slnečnej sústavy. EN: In this case minute variations in the extent of the occlusion of the star's light were analyzed, and they were interpreted as sign of a moon circling the occluding planet. With small moons that method won't be possible.
The fourth text was in Icelandic (from ruv.is), and it told about queen Nefertite, whose famous bust can be seen in the Neues Museum in Berlin. She was married to farao Ekhnaton, but according to the article probably not mother to his successor Tut-Ankh-Amun. And then I ask: how do they know that? Weren't the mummy of Nefertitii one of those that never were found? It seems that the speculations mostly have concerned a mummy named 'the younger lady', who actually might be the real mother of king Tut, but who seems to be too young to be Nefertiti. But if this mummy isn't Nefertiti then I don't think the archeologists have any other proposal ready. My guess is that the hatred against Ekhnaton among the Amun priesters was so great that they wouldn't have minded using his body as fertilizer, and the same fate could have befallen the mummy of Nefertiti. btw: the article also mentions the possibility that a certain Smenkare, who ruled for a very short time between Eknaton and Tut, actually was Nefertiti in disguise. Well, nobody knows, but it seems extremely unlikely to me - especially since Nefertiti disappears from public life during the last years of Ekhnaton's reign.
The fifth text was in Bahasa Indonesia, but against expectation the article mostly tells about ... INDO: Gunung Fuji (Fujiyama) di Jepang, yang sangat indah, tetapi juga gunung api yang berpotensi beraktif. Selama gempa bumi pada tahun 1707 gunung Fuji memuntahkan abu, bukan lava, dan itu tampak seperti letusan Gunung Agung di Bali pada tahun 2018, di mana ada juga abu, a tidak lava bercahaya..
EN: It was in connection with my work with this text that I discovered an unrevised wordlist and went through some 270 words for the second time.
The last text yesterday was taken from the Low German Wikipedia and it told about the Permian and the Triassic periods in the history of the Earth. At this point I didn't really feel like copying more text by hand so it couldn't become anything more than an extensive reading of four A4 sheets in Platt (without translation because it isn't necessary). I'm slightly impressed by the length of these articles in Low German about fairly exotic topics. Somewhere in Northern Germany there must be one single laudable Plattophone nerd who has become sufficiently interested in paleontology to write (or transfer) these lengthy articles to his/her native language, and I think I owe myself to seek out any other articles from the same source about the remaining earth periods.
The book on my night-chair (not table) is still the Greek grammar from Routledge, but having worked my way through the texts above I didn't feel like reading more about ANYTHING.
FR: J'ai évidemment mentionné le cas du compositeur Schobert (avec un 'o') et sa famille et leur médécin, qui selon les dictionaires de musique sont lamentablement décédés après avoir mangé un repas basé sur des champignons collectionnés par monsieur Schobert lui-même. Leur médécin s'était porté garant pour l'innocuité des champignons, et il a accepté l'invitation du compositeur à participer dans leur consommation, une décision qu'il a payée avec sa vie. Seul un enfant qui n'aimait pas les champignons a survécu. Belle histoire ... mais madame la collectrice de champignons à laquelle j'eus le plasir de parler aujourd'hui a douté qu'il y ait en Europe des champignons si toxiques qu'ils eussent pu tuer toute une famille si infailliblement qu'une explosion dans un magazin de poudre. Peut-être a-t-elle raison, mais ajoutez la visite d'un autre médécin (ou l'acte hardie de suivre encore une fois les conseils du médécin de la famille) et l'affaire semble un peu plus vraisemblable. Consulter un médécin au milieu du 18. siècle était plus dangereux que d'être fusillé.
SP: Más tarde llegó otra señora (ayudada a encontrarnos por un bibliotecario), un estudiante de arquitectura que estaba muy interesada en un proyecto para integrar plantas - hasta arboles enteros - en edificios. Yo mencioné que esto era un proyecto con raices historicas: comenzó con la reina Semiramis de Babilonia y sus jardines colgantes, que fue una de las siete maravillas de la antiguïdad.
EN: before the session in French I read about a quarter of the Colloquial Ukrainian, which can be motivated by the fact that I'll pass through Lviv sometime next month. It worried me however that one of the texts in the book claimed that it was impossible to buy an Ukranian dictionary in Odessa. I hope it will be possible in Lviv since I have a glaring hole in my dictionary collection with Ukranian, and I really ought to do something about it.
In my last message I mentioned that I went through a number of texts yesterday, so let's do that now - but briefly:
One text in Bulgarian (from fakti.bg) about the Yeti of Himalaya.
BU: Повечето легенди около Йети ги характеризират като някаква маймуна или хуманоид, но EN: in this article it was stated that a recent test based upon DNA analysis had shown that one tissue specimen was from a dog and the rest were from 'coffee bears' (i.e. brown bears) - albeit from a lineage that had been isolated from other brown bears for more than 600.000 years and was considered to be extinct. So if such a critter could be localized it would be a discovery almost at the level of catching a live yeti.
The next text was about the Doric dialect (and in Greek), but I have already mentioned that one.
The third text (from tech.sme.sk) was in Slovakian and described the find of the first moon outside our solar system - but no ordinary Moon. The 'mother planet' is in itself massive, one of the socalled super Jupiters, and the moon is thought to be around the size of the planet Neptune. SLOK: Samozrejme je ťažké nájsť mesiace mimo našej slnečnej sústavy. EN: In this case minute variations in the extent of the occlusion of the star's light were analyzed, and they were interpreted as sign of a moon circling the occluding planet. With small moons that method won't be possible.
The fourth text was in Icelandic (from ruv.is), and it told about queen Nefertite, whose famous bust can be seen in the Neues Museum in Berlin. She was married to farao Ekhnaton, but according to the article probably not mother to his successor Tut-Ankh-Amun. And then I ask: how do they know that? Weren't the mummy of Nefertitii one of those that never were found? It seems that the speculations mostly have concerned a mummy named 'the younger lady', who actually might be the real mother of king Tut, but who seems to be too young to be Nefertiti. But if this mummy isn't Nefertiti then I don't think the archeologists have any other proposal ready. My guess is that the hatred against Ekhnaton among the Amun priesters was so great that they wouldn't have minded using his body as fertilizer, and the same fate could have befallen the mummy of Nefertiti. btw: the article also mentions the possibility that a certain Smenkare, who ruled for a very short time between Eknaton and Tut, actually was Nefertiti in disguise. Well, nobody knows, but it seems extremely unlikely to me - especially since Nefertiti disappears from public life during the last years of Ekhnaton's reign.
The fifth text was in Bahasa Indonesia, but against expectation the article mostly tells about ... INDO: Gunung Fuji (Fujiyama) di Jepang, yang sangat indah, tetapi juga gunung api yang berpotensi beraktif. Selama gempa bumi pada tahun 1707 gunung Fuji memuntahkan abu, bukan lava, dan itu tampak seperti letusan Gunung Agung di Bali pada tahun 2018, di mana ada juga abu, a tidak lava bercahaya..
EN: It was in connection with my work with this text that I discovered an unrevised wordlist and went through some 270 words for the second time.
The last text yesterday was taken from the Low German Wikipedia and it told about the Permian and the Triassic periods in the history of the Earth. At this point I didn't really feel like copying more text by hand so it couldn't become anything more than an extensive reading of four A4 sheets in Platt (without translation because it isn't necessary). I'm slightly impressed by the length of these articles in Low German about fairly exotic topics. Somewhere in Northern Germany there must be one single laudable Plattophone nerd who has become sufficiently interested in paleontology to write (or transfer) these lengthy articles to his/her native language, and I think I owe myself to seek out any other articles from the same source about the remaining earth periods.
The book on my night-chair (not table) is still the Greek grammar from Routledge, but having worked my way through the texts above I didn't feel like reading more about ANYTHING.