MorkTheFiddle wrote:I like the quotation. I had never heard it before. Thanks.
yes, it's a cliché to insult clichés, so it's quite droll for 1,940 years ago.
MorkTheFiddle wrote:I like the quotation. I had never heard it before. Thanks.
Thanks for this. I'm adding it to my reading list (Japanese, of course ). The first story in 'Read Real Japanese: Fiction' is by Hiromi Kawakami and it is my favourite. So, I've been meaning to look for some more of her works and this gives me a head start.MorkTheFiddle wrote:Yesterday I finished another engaging novel translated from Japanese called *The Nakano Thrift Ship* by Hiromi Kawakami (a lady rather well known if not to me).
Currently I'm enjoying Kawakami's Briefcase, about a May-December romance.tuckamore wrote:Thanks for this. I'm adding it to my reading list (Japanese, of course ). The first story in 'Read Real Japanese: Fiction' is by Hiromi Kawakami and it is my favourite. So, I've been meaning to look for some more of her works and this gives me a head start.MorkTheFiddle wrote:Yesterday I finished another engaging novel translated from Japanese called *The Nakano Thrift Ship* by Hiromi Kawakami (a lady rather well known if not to me).
MorkTheFiddle wrote: Japanese poetry does include works longer than haiku or tanka. If anyone reading this has a suggestion, please let me know.
devilyoudont wrote:MorkTheFiddle wrote: Japanese poetry does include works longer than haiku or tanka. If anyone reading this has a suggestion, please let me know.
Japanese poetry is almost uniformly short, and even so called long forms like choka still seem short to me (in addition to completely falling out of fashion literally 1000 years ago)
Longer works are almost always a mixture of poetry and prose. On one side of the spectrum, you have works like Tale of Genji and Kagero Nikki which are generally a prose narrative which nevertheless contain a lot of poetry. On another side of the spectrum you have "uta monogatari" works such as Tales of Ise which are more or less loose collections of poetry which suggest themes or narratives connected by small amounts of prose which may or may not actually be part of the suggested narrative.
As the name "uta monogatari" suggests (uta = song), the line between poetry and music can be kind of blurred, so you could also expand to types of verse which are generally not considered poetry. As a random example, why not Noh?
Just some random ideas for you.
MorkTheFiddle wrote:I'm also thinking of reviving my Old Norse, at least to the extent of re-reading "Hrafnkels saga freysgoða," a great story for any language. A passage I read in Medea today made me think of it. There is a convenient copy of it in E. V. Gordon's An Introduction to Old Norse, rev 2nd ed by A. R. Taylor (London 1974). Along with some other interesting bits of Old Norse lit.
Have you ever read Boethius' Consolation of Philosophy?MorkTheFiddle wrote:On the Latin front, I have not got anywhere past the first sentence with Ovem Occidere Mimicam.
No, I have not read it. Thank you for the reminder. I'm making one of those lists, Books You have to read before you die. Consolation goes on it.DaveAgain wrote:Have you ever read Boethius' Consolation of Philosophy?MorkTheFiddle wrote:On the Latin front, I have not got anywhere past the first sentence with Ovem Occidere Mimicam.
IronMike wrote:MorkTheFiddle wrote:I'm also thinking of reviving my Old Norse, at least to the extent of re-reading "Hrafnkels saga freysgoða," a great story for any language. A passage I read in Medea today made me think of it. There is a convenient copy of it in E. V. Gordon's An Introduction to Old Norse, rev 2nd ed by A. R. Taylor (London 1974). Along with some other interesting bits of Old Norse lit.
I freaking love Gordon's book. Found it in a used book store many months ago for a great price. I read all the history stuff at the beginning, just haven't attacked the lessons yet.
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