Koolawant's Japanese Log

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Re: Koolawant's Japanese Log

Postby Xavier Disney » Mon Apr 16, 2018 4:50 pm

Koolawant .... Your log is very inspiring and interesting as well... I was wondering have you felt you have learned more of the Japanese language in high school and college or in your own self study? I know going to the country has helped me tremendously for me something about the culture grips you to dig deeper and learn more and more. :D I'm looking forwar to following your progress here and going forward.

-XD
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Re: Koolawant's Japanese Log

Postby koolawant » Tue Apr 17, 2018 1:28 am

Xavier Disney wrote:Koolawant .... Your log is very inspiring and interesting as well... I was wondering have you felt you have learned more of the Japanese language in high school and college or in your own self study? I know going to the country has helped me tremendously for me something about the culture grips you to dig deeper and learn more and more. :D I'm looking forwar to following your progress here and going forward.

-XD


Is it? Looks like a bunch of craziness from my end :lol:

Well, even though I did it all 4 years in highschool, I was a dumb highschooler and didn't study at ALL outside of class or during breaks. I'm surprised I remembered anything. College was the same the first year. I was convinced that if I took classes I would magically become fluent. It wasn't until I moved to japan my 2nd year that my Japanese surged forward. After coming back I've done a crazy amount of self study mixed with classes. Going to Japan, self studying, and making the choice to go back to japan for my senior year is the best choice I made for my Japanese. I like classes, but the more advanced I get the less I get out of them because my needs become so specific.

tldr; my year in japan skyrocketed my Japanese and gave me the tools to know how to self study in a way that has since advanced my Japanese
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Re: Koolawant's Japanese Log

Postby Xavier Disney » Tue Apr 17, 2018 3:40 am

koolawant wrote:
Xavier Disney wrote:Koolawant .... Your log is very inspiring and interesting as well... I was wondering have you felt you have learned more of the Japanese language in high school and college or in your own self study? I know going to the country has helped me tremendously for me something about the culture grips you to dig deeper and learn more and more. :D I'm looking forwar to following your progress here and going forward.

-XD


Is it? Looks like a bunch of craziness from my end :lol:

Well, even though I did it all 4 years in highschool, I was a dumb highschooler and didn't study at ALL outside of class or during breaks. I'm surprised I remembered anything. College was the same the first year. I was convinced that if I took classes I would magically become fluent. It wasn't until I moved to japan my 2nd year that my Japanese surged forward. After coming back I've done a crazy amount of self study mixed with classes. Going to Japan, self studying, and making the choice to go back to japan for my senior year is the best choice I made for my Japanese. I like classes, but the more advanced I get the less I get out of them because my needs become so specific.

tldr; my year in japan skyrocketed my Japanese and gave me the tools to know how to self study in a way that has since advanced my Japanese


I couldn’t agree more I have studied Spanish on and off the last couple of years mostly self study but I find when I do take s Spanish class I am far more advanced then what they are teaching in college for the most part. As you know Japan is a magical place filled with culture and extremely generous people... I can’t wait to go back and possibly make it my permanent residence. =)
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Re: Koolawant's Japanese Log

Postby koolawant » Wed Apr 18, 2018 2:18 am

Generous, until they're running you over trying to get onto a bus/subway :lol:

For anyone reading this, while my vocab and kanji study are going well, my grammar has come to a full halt. Up until now all my methods have been largely ineffective. I have an imperfect understanding of a lot of grammar which is fine for short phrases but trips me up on the longer ones (which japanese is full of). How do you effectively study grammar? I've read 2000 pages in japanese, and although it has helped me get a more intrinsic feeling for it, I'd rather know them really well from formal study before seeing them in the wild and having to puzzle out a sentence for 10 minutes. I know many of you here advocate for reading until it clicks but if I can understand something in a short time by formal study vs 10,000 pages I'd rather do option A :lol: I've started the reading route, and while I tolerate ambiguity, I would like to have a much higher percent of understanding before I return to reading via massive input in a few months; for the sake of my sanity. My grammar has always been my weakest point and I really want to change that. I want to understand and produce my grammar accurately, which is something I should already be doing relatively well at my level. If anyone has advice, please chime in.
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Re: Koolawant's Japanese Log

Postby ロータス » Wed Apr 18, 2018 2:26 am

koolawant wrote:Generous, until they're running you over trying to get onto a bus/subway :lol:

For anyone reading this, while my vocab and kanji study are going well, my grammar has come to a full halt. Up until now all my methods have been largely ineffective. I have an imperfect understanding of a lot of grammar which is fine for short phrases but trips me up on the longer ones (which japanese is full of). How do you effectively study grammar? I've read 2000 pages in japanese, and although it has helped me get a more intrinsic feeling for it, I'd rather know them really well from formal study before seeing them in the wild and having to puzzle out a sentence for 10 minutes. I know many of you here advocate for reading until it clicks but if I can understand something in a short time by formal study vs 10,000 pages I'd rather do option A :lol: I've started the reading route, and while I tolerate ambiguity, I would like to have a much higher percent of understanding before I return to reading via massive input in a few months; for the sake of my sanity. My grammar has always been my weakest point and I really want to change that. I want to understand and produce my grammar accurately, which is something I should already be doing relatively well at my level. If anyone has advice, please chime in.


Practice makes perfect. Learn a grammar point then create several sentences using it. Review past grammar by writing a paragraph using them.
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Re: Koolawant's Japanese Log

Postby koolawant » Wed Apr 18, 2018 3:37 am

Great ideas. I make several sentences, but maybe I should be making more.
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