Дмитрий Петров (Dmitry Petrov) a Russian polyglot

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Дмитрий Петров (Dmitry Petrov) a Russian polyglot

Postby Kamlari » Sun Oct 07, 2018 8:52 am

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Re: Дмитрий Петров (Dmitry Petrov) a Russian polyglot

Postby Serpent » Sun Oct 07, 2018 12:38 pm

He hosted a TV show where people would try to learn a language in 16 episodes. I know that the Italian one contained pretty basic mistakes. Also, those who had any success were mostly false beginners.

All participants were actors btw, I think mostly to avoid shyness/fear of looking silly.
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Re: Дмитрий Петров (Dmitry Petrov) a Russian polyglot

Postby Kamlari » Sun Oct 07, 2018 2:29 pm

Yes, there are so many polyglots out there that it makes me cringe every time I try to count the languages they do not speak.
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Re: Дмитрий Петров (Dmitry Petrov) a Russian polyglot

Postby Arnaud » Sun Oct 07, 2018 6:11 pm

Serpent wrote:He hosted a TV show where people would try to learn a language in 16 episodes. I know that the Italian one contained pretty basic mistakes. Also, those who had any success were mostly false beginners.

All participants were actors btw, I think mostly to avoid shyness/fear of looking silly.

That's true, I watched the french one and it also contains basic mistakes.
But I won't critisize him, I think what he does is great to popularise language learning, on russian forums I've read that some people had seriously started to learn or reactivate their french after having watched his program, so that's rather positive, imho.
Nonetheless, I think the YT video is interesting to learn all kind of swear words in russian...have fun :mrgreen:
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Re: Дмитрий Петров (Dmitry Petrov) a Russian polyglot

Postby ironfist » Mon Oct 08, 2018 12:17 am

Let's be honest, if you speak Russian basically anything you learn after that is going to be easy.

Except for German and genders, that's probably annoying all the time. I mean, I complain about Russian being hard a lot but at least you can normally tell the gender of a word just from looking at it.

I cannot imagine a Russian speaker learning English and being like "wait... there are no declensions? Adjectives don't change? Wait everyone this is too hard."
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Re: Дмитрий Петров (Dmitry Petrov) a Russian polyglot

Postby Serpent » Mon Oct 08, 2018 1:46 am

We have other difficulties, like the articles and the many verb tenses (will have been done...)
Not to mention the extremely archaic spelling.

Also, in non-IE languages we often face the same difficulties as English speakers do.
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Re: Дмитрий Петров (Dmitry Petrov) a Russian polyglot

Postby Iversen » Tue Oct 09, 2018 12:09 am

It must be equally difficult for an Anglophone learner of Russian to accept that there are no articles in Russian, and that the past tense covers both "I did" and "I have done".
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Re: Дмитрий Петров (Dmitry Petrov) a Russian polyglot

Postby reineke » Tue Oct 09, 2018 1:03 am

Iversen wrote:It must be equally difficult for an Anglophone learner of Russian to accept that there are no articles in Russian, and that the past tense covers both "I did" and "I have done".


Ahem.

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Re: Дмитрий Петров (Dmitry Petrov) a Russian polyglot

Postby ironfist » Tue Oct 09, 2018 5:19 am

Iversen wrote:It must be equally difficult for an Anglophone learner of Russian to accept that there are no articles in Russian, and that the past tense covers both "I did" and "I have done".


Having no articles is easy. You just don't use them.

How to you say specificity, though? In English, "I need the comb" is different than "I need a comb." Can you just say "I need comb that we were talking about before?" Lack of articles doesn't really bother me. Do people say it makes Russian harder? Let's have a discussion about this.
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Re: Дмитрий Петров (Dmitry Petrov) a Russian polyglot

Postby reineke » Sun Oct 14, 2018 9:10 pm

You should probably try discussing this in that previous thread or you could open a new one.

This may also be of help:

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