I think, it is Ancient Greek and i wonder what is it mean.
Can you translate for me?
Thanks.
Can You Translate This Ancient Greek Words?
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Re: Can You Translate This Ancient Greek Words?
The very last word means most sacred ιερώτατο.
Τω πατρι στρατιωτ?? dative for the father sodier? Γλύκων could be a man's name.
That φλα confuses me greatly but on inscriptions sometimes you find abbreviations (maybe?). Is this the entire inscription and where is it from exactly?
Τω πατρι στρατιωτ?? dative for the father sodier? Γλύκων could be a man's name.
That φλα confuses me greatly but on inscriptions sometimes you find abbreviations (maybe?). Is this the entire inscription and where is it from exactly?
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Re: Can You Translate This Ancient Greek Words?
renaissancemedici wrote:The very last word means most sacred ιερώτατο... Γλύκων could be a man's name.
I may be way off the mark here, but wasn't Glycon a Macedonian snake god in the early Roman Empire?
renaissancemedici wrote:That φλα confuses me greatly but on inscriptions sometimes you find abbreviations (maybe?)
You could be on to something there...I'm pretty sure I've seen "φλα" inscribed on the front or back of roman coins at the British Museum - perhaps it's an abbreviation of a name (e.g., Flavius , Flavia, Flaccus)?
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Re: Can You Translate This Ancient Greek Words?
Thank you everyone.
It is from Turkey.
And i have other one.
renaissancemedici wrote:The very last word means most sacred ιερώτατο.
Τω πατρι στρατιωτ?? dative for the father sodier? Γλύκων could be a man's name.
That φλα confuses me greatly but on inscriptions sometimes you find abbreviations (maybe?). Is this the entire inscription and where is it from exactly?
It is from Turkey.
And i have other one.
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Yes, in Turkey, but which archaeological site?
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Re: Can You Translate This Ancient Greek Words?
renaissancemedici wrote:The very last word means most sacred ιερώτατο.
Τω πατρι στρατιωτ?? dative for the father sodier? Γλύκων could be a man's name.
That φλα confuses me greatly but on inscriptions sometimes you find abbreviations (maybe?). Is this the entire inscription and where is it from exactly?
I think it continues on the following line as Τω πατρι στρατιωτικω - and then the two last letters seem to be ωρ. Not sure what to do with those, maybe it's another abbreviation, or the text continues on the other side. My best guess would be a past form of the verb ορθοω, "to raise, build", as I imagine the likely meaning is that the son raised this monument in memory of his father.
Teango wrote:renaissancemedici wrote:The very last word means most sacred ιερώτατο... Γλύκων could be a man's name.
I may be way off the mark here, but wasn't Glycon a Macedonian snake god in the early Roman Empire?renaissancemedici wrote:That φλα confuses me greatly but on inscriptions sometimes you find abbreviations (maybe?)
You could be on to something there...I'm pretty sure I've seen "φλα" inscribed on the front or back of roman coins at the British Museum - perhaps it's an abbreviation of a name (e.g., Flavius , Flavia, Flaccus)?
Yes, abbrevations are common, and I know I've seen a list of common abbrevations in Greek and/or Roman insctiptions at some point, but unfortunately, I'm sure that list is in a library book, not in one I own or on the web. However, I think your Roman name theory is probably correct. The way to find out for sure would be to get a good book on Greek epigraphy.
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renaissancemedici wrote:Yes, in Turkey, but which archaeological site?
İt is from İzmir, Bergama.
Ancient name is Pergamon Kingdom.
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İt is more easy than others.
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Re: Can You Translate This Ancient Greek Words?
If anything, you demonstrated that it is not so easy. It looks like you saw some letters there that are not in the Greek alphabet, such as "J", a backwards "S", and a Cyrillic Ю (yu). Deciphering a worn inscription like this takes knowledge and guesswork. There will be stray marks from wear that don't mean anything.renbur35 wrote:İt is more easy than others.
My knowledge of Greek is mostly limited to the alphabet, so unfortunately I won't be much help in deciphering any of these inscriptions.
Also, FYI, it looks like you are using capitol "I" with a dot, which is not used in English. I would guess that if you are typing English with a Turkish keyboard layout, you will need to use different keys to type capitol "I" and lowercase "i".
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I wish I knew how you have these things in your possession (if they are in your possession). Pergamon is an wonderful place. Aren't there archaeologists there that could help out?
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