What's the problem with 'th' or θ sound?

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Re: What's the problem with 'th' or θ sound?

Postby Cainntear » Mon Aug 13, 2018 2:06 pm

Saim wrote:
Jaleel10 wrote:And guess who is learning the Spanish Spoken in Spain haha. For the life of me I can't seem to pronounce words that contains θ and s next to each other - piscina, ascensor, las cerezas. It's something that I drill often when no one is around :? My mouth just can't make the distinction between those sounds quickly enough. There is always a pause.


You don't need to pronounce it as [sθ], plenty of natives realise /sθ/ as [θ]:

[pi'θina]
[aθen'soɾ]
[laθe'ɾeθas]

Interesting... I wasn't aware of this, but now that you say it, I think I might make spelling mistakes with these because of dropping the S in speech.

At the same time, I'm wondering if the dropping is more related to accents where non-prevocalic /s/ is dropped anyway, "como loh andaluseh" and "lo. arshentino."

Edit: I feel rather stupid now, because the only accent where /s/ is reduced but CE/Z is pronounced /θ/ is Murcia; if you don't make a difference between S and Z/CE then "ascensor" clearly has no /sθ/ combination because it's just /s/. Must remember to engage my brain before speaking in future.
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Re: What's the problem with 'th' or θ sound?

Postby Cainntear » Mon Aug 13, 2018 7:04 pm

Hashimi wrote:
Saim wrote:
You don't need to pronounce it as [sθ], plenty of natives realise /sθ/ as [θ]:

[pi'θina]
[aθen'soɾ]
[laθe'ɾeθas]


Why not [pi'sina], [asen'soɾ], and [lase'ɾeθas]?

Rules of Spanish basically.
/s/ is pretty easily lost in Spanish, specifically at the end of a syllable before another syllable starting with a consonant. Losing a /θ/ at the start of a syllable would be very odd in Spanish.
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Re: What's the problem with 'th' or θ sound?

Postby smallwhite » Sat Aug 18, 2018 12:06 pm

Jaleel10 wrote:
For the life of me I can't seem to pronounce words that contains θ and s next to each other - piscina, ascensor, las cerezas. It's something that I drill often when no one is around :? My mouth just can't make the distinction between those sounds quickly enough. There is always a pause.

How do you pronounce "aesthetics" in English?
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Re: What's the problem with 'th' or θ sound?

Postby Jaleel10 » Sat Aug 18, 2018 12:37 pm

smallwhite wrote:
Jaleel10 wrote:
For the life of me I can't seem to pronounce words that contains θ and s next to each other - piscina, ascensor, las cerezas. It's something that I drill often when no one is around :? My mouth just can't make the distinction between those sounds quickly enough. There is always a pause.

How do you pronounce "aesthetics" in English?


Because it's "estetika" in Afrikaans I tend to say "aestetics". bows head in shame
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Re: What's the problem with 'th' or θ sound?

Postby smallwhite » Sat Aug 18, 2018 1:08 pm

Jaleel10 wrote:
Because it's "estetika" in Afrikaans I tend to say "aestetics". bows head in shame

I wanted to ask you about "sixth sense" as well but I'm still practising it. Sixt... siths... Sixs...
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