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Re: Football coaches speaking in foreign tongues

Postby Serpent » Wed Sep 19, 2018 12:10 pm

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Re: Football coaches speaking in foreign tongues

Postby Jaleel10 » Wed Sep 19, 2018 1:49 pm

Here is José Mourinho flaunting his language skills. Other than his native Portuguese, he speaks Spanish, Italian, French, and English to varying degrees of fluency.

Fun fact. Early in his coaching career, he would regularly translate for English speaking coaches and players, to either Spanish or Portuguese. Often times spending time with players after training sessions going over tactics in the language.

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Postby Serpent » Wed Sep 19, 2018 2:16 pm

He actually worked as an interpeter first, before becoming an assistant coach and finally the head coach.
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Postby Jaleel10 » Wed Sep 19, 2018 2:55 pm

Serpent wrote:He actually worked as an interpeter first, before becoming an assistant coach and finally the head coach.


I watched a documentary of his last night in Spanish and knew I must have translated something wrong in my head haha. Close enough I suppose :P
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Re: Football coaches speaking in foreign tongues

Postby Kraut » Wed Sep 19, 2018 4:19 pm

Expanding thread to "everything about football and languages".

Lipreading in football:

This seems to be spreading more and more, Tuchel yesterday spoke behind his palm several times. Can these lipreaders really read what is said, are there clubs that employ lipreaders?
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Re: Football coaches speaking in foreign tongues

Postby Jaleel10 » Wed Sep 19, 2018 4:40 pm

Kraut wrote:Expanding thread to "everything about football and languages".

Lipreading in football:

This seems to be spreading more and more, Tuchel yesterday spoke behind his palm several times. Can these lipreaders really read what is said, are there clubs that employ lipreaders?


Clubs? I don't think so, but sensationalist media organisations? Yes :lol:



I feel bad for calling El Día Después sensationalist, it's actually one of the best programs for Spanish football.

This one is more saucy

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Re: Football and languages

Postby Serpent » Mon Sep 24, 2018 4:08 pm

Thread renamed :)

Covering your mouth is not a new trend. I first noticed it after Busquets was accused of racism in 2011. Even then he tried to cover his mouth, but it remained mostly visible. I now looked up that story (let's not discuss who was right) and apparently back then he was called a coward for covering his mouth.

I wouldn't be surprised if some clubs now require the players to cover their mouths when talking in between action, since it's pretty much impossible to prove what was said, and once an incorrect lipreading is out there you can't make people unsee it, even if the player faces no sanction.

Also, lipreading has been used to figure out the manager's tactical instructions (and they're obviously less effective if the opponents know about them).
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Re: Football and languages

Postby Speakeasy » Mon Sep 24, 2018 7:19 pm

Serpent wrote: ... lipreading has been used to figure out the manager's tactical instructions (and they're obviously less effective if the opponents know about them).
By the mid-1970’s, and quite probably earlier, all major American Football teams -- real football teams, not soccer teams -- employed lip-readers who, equipped with high-resolution binoculars/monoculars and walkie-talkies, would relay their opponent’s on-field offensive and defensive instructions and sideline discussions to each other’s command central for analysis and almost instant changes to their game plan. Of course, better technology has caused everyone to “up their game” on communications … all of which reminds of the top secret use of “Code Talkers” by the armed forces of several nations.

Code Talkers – Wikipedia
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Code_talker

Navajo Code Talkers – HistoryNet
http://www.historynet.com/world-war-ii-navajo-code-talkers.htm

... language as a weapon of war.
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Re: Football and languages

Postby rdearman » Mon Sep 24, 2018 9:08 pm

Speakeasy wrote: real football teams, not soccer teams

It isn't football if you use your hands! :roll:
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