romeo.alpha wrote:zenmonkey wrote:No, he’s actually said he intended it as a provocation. As someone else stated, it’s two ships talking past each other. Also, this is a year old discussion about very little indeed.
The post prior to mine is February 25th, 2019. So, today. You've got a funny definition of "year old".
Did you even read it? It has nothing to do with the main topic of the thread - it's a response to rdearman's joke about learning in your sleep. My post, that you quoted, and the main content of the thread and EVEN the joke are over a year old.
No one mean immersion to mean “10 000 hours of incomprehensible input” as he states in the video. Later confronted, he noted he exaggerates about this. He’s even spoken in his podcast about it.
You've never heard of AJATT I suppose?
No, never.
Are you saying that AJATT recommends 10 000 hours of
incomprehensible input?
If so, you've completely missed the intent of his method or website.
Yes, he talks somewhere about listening to 10 000 hours of Japanese in 18 months, listening when you sleep, listening all the time...
But for those over-the-top posts Khatzumoto is mostly talking about comprehensible immersion and comprehensible study. For example, when he writes about using 10 000 sentences Khatzumoto explicitly states that you should "know the meaning of every word in the sentence." The AJATT site, for all its faults, is still very clear about one thing ... if it is boring material, it isn't good material. The listening to 10 000 hours is incidental (even while you sleep ...), it's also a way of reinforcing the concept of All Japanese
All The Time.