Re: Experiments: Gold List vs Anki vs ....
Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2018 10:35 pm
New words only ever go into a Bronze Book. I consider all the books and page format gimmick. The whole thing is just 11 distillations @70% to me.
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smallwhite wrote:New words only ever go into a Bronze Book. I consider all the books and page format gimmick. The whole thing is just 11 distillations @70% to me.
zenmonkey wrote:emer1ca wrote:After the third distillation (D3), I've got something like 8 words left, right?
I pick a Silver book, open it, write the date on the top left corner, write down 25 new words -including the 8 words left at D3- and repeat the process over and over. Did I miss something on the way?
Anyhoo, Im gonna keep a close watch on that topic, may the force be with you zenmonkey
Consider the silver a distillation of D3 so if you have 8 words --> 5-6 that you are going to write into the Silver headlist which you combine not with new words but with other D3s from your Bronze book. So 5 lists now make one 25 item entry in the Silver book...
zenmonkey wrote:smallwhite wrote:
I consider all the books and page format gimmick. The whole thing is just 11 distillations @70% to me.
Absolutely - but add to it that a lot of it is psychological - there seems to be a lot of focus to doing it slowly and mindfully.
Once upon a time Iversen wrote:
Goldlist...
the [...] 99 words could be divided into 18 known, 8 'something in that direction' and 73 totally wrong or no proposals...
'do-nothing' list...
the [...] 99 words could be divided into 17 known, 10 'not-totally-wrong' and 72 total failures. That is, practically the same dismal level as with the goldlists...
jeff_lindqvist wrote:I'm not ready for this experiment yet...
Let us assume that you learn 30% with each distillation - do you only add 25 items per week? Per day? Twice per week? Has anyone found the "perfect" study material? (Say, a textbook where each lesson has a list of 25 new words) What if the material you're working with has 50 items and you want to learn them all? One list "today", and the rest "tomorrow"? Or do you add them to another page with "today's" date on it? (=Meaning there will be two lists to review in two weeks.)
Has anyone found the perfect number of new cards for Anki? You can change a lot of settings, but assuming you don't, how many cards would you add each time, and how often? How many cards out of a list of 25 will have "disappeared" into the distant future if you choose Hard next time it shows up? Is Hard (or Good, or Easy?) somewhere close to a 30% distillation?
If you want to give the two methods a fair comparison, would 25 new cards in Anki (instead of the default 20) be similar to a list of 25 items? If not, why?
At the moment, my only deck which constantly feeds me with new words (50 per day) is Portuguese (simply because I imported a huge list of cards at some point). Czech and Cantonese depend on what I add from the lessons. If it's more than 50, the rest will show up next day (and interfere with the cards I then might add). But, based on this number of New cards and my "low" rating (usually Hard), ~1000 cards still reach mature status in one month (see this post from four weeks ago).
(Maybe I'm the only one thinking about this )