I've started to read in English aloud.
Now I am reading "The structure of Modern English" by B.Ilyish.
Is it useful?
Is it useful to read in a foreign language aloud?
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Is it useful to read in a foreign language aloud?
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Re: Is it useful to read a foreign language aloud?
I don't know if it is or not but my tutor has me do it for about 10 minutes every session. The point is to focus on pronunciation without having to worry about producing a sentence.
We work on my prosody and I can sense starting to read aloud it has really helped with my spoken language.
I'm sure someone can give a much more decisive answer then this and I look forward to reading it.
We work on my prosody and I can sense starting to read aloud it has really helped with my spoken language.
I'm sure someone can give a much more decisive answer then this and I look forward to reading it.
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Re: Is it useful to read in a foreign language aloud?
For me it is. I read aloud to myself a lot in French in order to get the rhythm and elisions into my head. I also find that it helps me remember new words to pronounce them out loud.
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Re: Is it useful to read in a foreign language aloud?
I think it can be, if you have someone to correct your pronunciation. I think that is the key point, otherwise you'll risk making mistakes and thinking they are acceptable when they're not. And reading is nice because it gives you a predetermined script, which is good for those who can't come up with stuff off the top of their heads, or who want some more structure in their practice, etc.
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Re: Is it useful to read in a foreign language aloud?
Going off what galaxyrocker says, I've heard of people reading a text (say, Assimil), record their reading of the text, and comparing it to the recording, if a native speaker isn't available.
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Re: Is it useful to read in a foreign language aloud?
Yes. It is.
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Re: Is it useful to read in a foreign language aloud?
I read aloud often in Spanish and Italian, languages whose pronunciations I feel pretty confident with. I find that it helps me find the rhythm and "music" of a language.
I have a Tagalog book that I really want to work with, but I keep putting it off because I'm not at all sure about pronunciation. Tagalog uses a WYSIWYG spelling, but I never know if I'm putting the stress on the right syllable. I learn a lot of vocabulary through reading, and I'm pretty sure I'll learn new vocabulary with erroneous pronunciation.
So my very definite answer is: it depends.
Are you comfortable with the pronunciation? Do you have access to a recording to compare? Then yes, by all means read aloud at times.
But if you aren't comfortable with the pronunciation, I'm not sure it's a very useful strategy.
I have a Tagalog book that I really want to work with, but I keep putting it off because I'm not at all sure about pronunciation. Tagalog uses a WYSIWYG spelling, but I never know if I'm putting the stress on the right syllable. I learn a lot of vocabulary through reading, and I'm pretty sure I'll learn new vocabulary with erroneous pronunciation.
So my very definite answer is: it depends.
Are you comfortable with the pronunciation? Do you have access to a recording to compare? Then yes, by all means read aloud at times.
But if you aren't comfortable with the pronunciation, I'm not sure it's a very useful strategy.
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Re: Is it useful to read in a foreign language aloud?
Ольга wrote:I've started to read in English aloud.
Now I am reading "The structure of Modern English" by B.Ilyish.
Is it useful?
See this part of the wikia article. Yes, this link has been posted before
This particular book doesn't sound like a good choice. Looks like it was written by a Russian native speaker who passed away in 1971. I don't question his academic credentials, but bear in mind that English wasn't his native language, and he learned it in the USSR where the authorities scrutinized his contact with native speakers and materials, or at least this was something he could reasonably expect. (aww he spoke Finnish)
And although Russians tend to learn really obscure stuff about the theory of English grammar (things native speakers never heard about), reading a better grammar reference aloud is not the solution You need something colloquial, engaging, probably with a lot of dialogue. It's easier to find good examples of fiction, but there's also a category of non-fictional books that fits - those with a personal touch, aimed at the general public and often humorous. I don't believe it's possible to find something "too easy" for reading aloud. For example, children's books may actually be a good idea because many are intended to be read aloud by adults to children.
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Re: Is it useful to read in a foreign language aloud?
Serpent wrote:You need something colloquial, engaging, probably with a lot of dialogue. It's easier to find good examples of fiction, but there's also a category of non-fictional books that fits - those with a personal touch, aimed at the general public and often humorous. I don't believe it's possible to find something "too easy" for reading aloud. For example, children's books may actually be a good idea because many are intended to be read aloud by adults to children.
A good non-fiction example that I can think of off the top of my head is any of David Sedaris' memoires (though his short stories also have a lot of dialogue if I am remembering correctly). They are all available on audiobook as well with Sedaris reading them.
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