Your Language Learning Strategy...In 50 Words or so

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Re: Your Language Learning Strategy...In 50 Words or so

Postby Atinkoriko » Sat Mar 25, 2017 12:17 pm

Chaotic.

Shadowing takes a prime place though. If I can pronounce a sound, I do not have difficulty finding it in a stream of other unknown sounds.
Michel Thomas for the introductory phase, Assimil as main course, Pimsleur for mindless drilling for automaticity. Occasional FSI.
Grammar study is highly chaotic. Sometimes, I'll ignore an unknown grammar concept until it bugs me enough to look it up. Then I never forget it. Do some Duolingo in the earlier stages to get used to going in and out of the language and for seeing grammar concepts in real time. I never finish my tree. Maybe one day.
I firmly believe in tackling material more difficult than 'n+1' periodically. The incredible strain + frustration does help in an unnoticeable way. Usually when I return to 'n+1' material after such a short but intensive period of study, it then seems like child's play.
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Re: Your Language Learning Strategy...In 50 Words or so

Postby reineke » Sat Mar 25, 2017 8:05 pm

Cartoons, apparently.
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Postby coldrainwater » Mon Mar 27, 2017 3:24 am

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  • Study present tense for 3.5 years late last century.
  • Take 20 year sabbatical.
  • Reach A2 status in record time (thanks Duolingo).
  • Stay at A2 for as long as possible.
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  • Think about simple problem for hours.
  • Emit a few lines of code.
  • Claim language mastery after first successful attempt.
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Re: Your Language Learning Strategy...In 50 Words or so

Postby zaneisdayton » Tue Mar 28, 2017 3:51 pm

As a native English speaker it is sometimes hard to find a method to tackle a new language. I'm almost finished with a degree in German and straight memorization isn't always the best option. I've been told the best option is to fully-immerse yourself in the language and culture, but living in Texas, I'm surrounded by Spanish, lol. The aspect I struggled with was listening comprehension, so my best advice is to watch television in the language (tagesschau.de, for German) or listen to music. Also, having a passion for learning languages, I've learned that it is more difficult to try and learn two languages at the same time, I tried learning Spanish, not too related to German lol. But try to immerse yourself the best you can!
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Re: Your Language Learning Strategy...In 50 Words or so

Postby Expugnator » Tue Apr 04, 2017 3:45 pm

- Dialogue-based textbook (Assimil)
- Grammar-based textbook
- More from them until A2
- Translated novels in parallel
- Translated novels in parallel with audiobook
- Sentence-based app
- Dubbed series
- Native novels
- Native series
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Re: Your Language Learning Strategy...In 50 Words or so

Postby William Camden » Wed Apr 12, 2017 8:14 am

zaneisdayton wrote:As a native English speaker it is sometimes hard to find a method to tackle a new language. I'm almost finished with a degree in German and straight memorization isn't always the best option. I've been told the best option is to fully-immerse yourself in the language and culture, but living in Texas, I'm surrounded by Spanish, lol. The aspect I struggled with was listening comprehension, so my best advice is to watch television in the language (tagesschau.de, for German) or listen to music. Also, having a passion for learning languages, I've learned that it is more difficult to try and learn two languages at the same time, I tried learning Spanish, not too related to German lol. But try to immerse yourself the best you can!

Your avatar looks like a Bavarian Oktoberfest scene. Ah, those litre glasses of German beer. I was a student in Germany and drank one of those not long after arriving, and a surgeon could have operated on me and I would still have had a smile on my face. By the end of my stay I could drink two of these and still be more or less sober because my alcohol tolerance had increased. The follies of youth...
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Re: Your Language Learning Strategy...In 50 Words or so

Postby Soffía » Sat Apr 15, 2017 8:39 pm

Read a lot and follow my passion. Tolerate ambiguity and partial understanding.
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Re: Your Language Learning Strategy...In 50 Words or so

Postby aaleks » Sun Apr 16, 2017 10:07 am

An audio course, a textbook, a lot of listening and reading in a target language.

In fact, I have never followed strictly the strategy because my language learning hasn’t been systematic*. But learning a language by ear has always seemed a more natural and easy way to me. And it is the reason why I put an audio course and listening before a textbook and reading. Although I like to read books too, moreover I think that reading is the best way to build a vocabulary, at least it is so for me.

* Besides English, I studied German (in school) and French (self-studying). But I forgot German almost completely and I didn’t learn French to any decent level, so I haven’t listed any of two in my profile.
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Re: Your Language Learning Strategy...In 50 Words or so

Postby Voytek » Sat May 20, 2017 3:52 am

A0-A2 - a solid prosody and pronunciation training, 2 or 3 good quality textboks
A1-B2+ - the L-R method (listening in a TL and reading in my NL) + intermediate grammar
B2+ - C1+ - movies (mainly TV shows) with TL subtitles and audio
C1+ - C2 - the L-R method (listening and reading in a TL) + advanced grammar
C2 - listening to the radio + OUTPUT

Of course, Anki all the way, with the frequency list with at least 5000 words. I found Glossika courses quite useful in getting to know language patterns.
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Re: Your Language Learning Strategy...In 50 Words or so

Postby LesRonces » Sat May 20, 2017 8:02 am

I'm not sure i have a 'method' as such, and definitely no strategy outside of 'get as much input as possible and speak/write when i can/when i feel like it.'

When i started off i looked up some grammar to figure out what the hell gender and verb endings and stuff were, but i've never explicitly studied grammar or conjugations etc. The only thing that still gives me a real headache is the use of 'en' and 'y' as pronouns in French.

Aside from that i've just read and listened to stuff, watched TV and youtube. Some stuff was completely incomprehensible but i still watched it. That same stuff is now becoming clearer to me.

I've tackled incomprehensible input, made it as comprehensible as i could in that time and then moved on to something else. So if i get something i don't understand, i will try very hard to understand it. I will rewind, look up words, try to get the gist, ask questions online. If it still escapes me i go onto something else. No worries. When i go back i always understand more.

I've taken texts with 50% unknown words and defined the words on LWT, working through and reading, slowly but surely letting the fog lift before again moving on to some other stuff.

Eventually one day i realised i knew thousands of words (conjugations included though) and was understanding a lot of stuff but to pass say a B2 test i would need to specifically work on a lot of things i think.

I've looked over the B1 DELF and it looks reasonably simple for my skill level.

I think i could do with talking a lot more though. I'm currently writing on forums trying to get my written output to an acceptable level.

In terms of time or routine there isn't one. I wake up, whack the news on, do some reading, then i might do some other stuff through the day with the radio on in the background or not. Then at night i will maybe watch a show but then maybe i might just read. I just do what i feel like really as long as i'm spending time with the language every day.
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