cathrynm wrote:I think you're onto something here. That perhaps the issue is the effort, that if were just, like, instinctive or something, it wouldn't matter so much. This is my sense of it.
Of course it's the effort this is about. The hours you put in, the frustration and feelings of incompetency you have to cope with, the strain low linguistic skills can put on your relationships and the extra effort you (and/or the other person) have to put in to make it work for the time being.
Sure, doing fun things in the language helps, but I for one get annoyed when people say English must be easy for me - the ease with which I now use English is the result of years of making the conscious decision of forgoing the easier German option in favour of the more difficult English one several times every day: until they became equally easy.
I'm greedy. I want to experience the same thing in the other languages I list here, and maybe some more. But that's hard to get across to people who don't know what I'm talking about. ('I want to be at home in your culture, your language, whether you want me here or not ...?')