Immersion First: Dreaming in Spanish?

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Immersion First: Dreaming in Spanish?

Postby TopDog_IK » Thu Sep 29, 2022 3:06 pm

This seems to be a fairly pure immersion method. After reading over much of the website, I can't find much to disagree with. What are your thoughts on this method?

https://www.dreamingspanish.com/method
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Re: Immersion First: Dreaming in Spanish?

Postby leosmith » Thu Sep 29, 2022 3:36 pm

Lol. you just don't give up, do you?

"Input is sufficient" is sort of BS. Sufficient to reach an intermediate level very slowly maybe.
We should "Imitate the way children learn their first language" is clearly flawed - sure, there are some things that are good, like not caring about mistakes, but what about taking 10 years to become a decent speaker, etc?
"ALG" sucks, according to students I met who attended classes in Thailand. They learned things, but the successful students got that way by additionally breaking the rules and doing active things outside of class. It was torture for them not to be allowed speak, especially since they were immersed. Better accents was a complete myth.
"Learning is not acquisition" - they interpreted it the same way most educators interpreted Krashen's controversial claim, and say "learning" is problematic. But unlike most educators, they actually agree with the claim. Yikes!
"Acquired language works extremely fast" - nope, it's the opposite.
Anyway, that's enough. There's a ton of other stuff written by a Krashenite, and we've all had too much of that argument recently. Maybe this should be combined with the Krashenite thread?
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Re: Immersion First: Dreaming in Spanish?

Postby TopDog_IK » Thu Sep 29, 2022 3:43 pm

leosmith wrote:sure, there are some things that are good, like not caring about mistakes, but what about taking 10 years to become a decent speaker, etc?


10 years?
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Re: Immersion First: Dreaming in Spanish?

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