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Re: If you can't speak Latin in Rome...

Postby lingua » Tue Aug 10, 2021 10:20 pm

I started the Latin MOOC course through uninettunouniversity.net a few years ago though I never finished it. The professor pronounced Latin the same way as Italian which of course isn't how other sources teach it. Presumably that is how it's taught in Italy.
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Re: If you can't speak Latin in Rome...

Postby einzelne » Tue Aug 10, 2021 11:43 pm

lingua wrote:I started the Latin MOOC course through uninettunouniversity.net a few years ago though I never finished it.


Was it because of the content of the course itself or because of Ecclesiastical pronunciation?
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Re: If you can't speak Latin in Rome...

Postby lingua » Wed Aug 11, 2021 5:42 am

einzelne wrote:
lingua wrote:I started the Latin MOOC course through uninettunouniversity.net a few years ago though I never finished it.


Was it because of the content of the course itself or because of Ecclesiastical pronunciation?


Oops ... I forgot that this had a name. Pretty sure the professor even mentioned it. I actually like that pronunciation. I was taking the course more to take something in Italian than to learn Latin. That was just a bonus. I always intended to finish it but my tendency is to flit form one source to another so it got left behind. I also didn't think the interface was very good.
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Re: If you can't speak Latin in Rome...

Postby outcast » Wed Aug 11, 2021 7:37 am

Le Baron wrote:
outcast wrote:He went to the wrong country. He should go to Vatican City. I wonder if it's hard to get there from Rome... 8-)


They speak a strange dialect in Vatican City.


Can you elaborate? I thought they spoke Italian, and for ceremonial purposes Latin.

I think it would have been even more interesting to go there and do part of the video at or around the Holy See, since Latin is the quasi- official language there. It would have been interesting to see how the people there stacked up fluency wise. Unique twist.

To do it in the streets of Rome we all know what would happen, it's just like a candid camera tv shows will do, where we are all in on the joke except the victim. :)
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Re: If you can't speak Latin in Rome...

Postby Le Baron » Wed Aug 11, 2021 11:41 am

I meant (as a joke) that they speak using the specifically ecclesiastical pronunciation, which would be 'foreign' to a speaker of classical Latin :lol: . So essentially the reverse of what he is doing here.

But yes, I would also have liked to see just how accomplished they are in Vatican City. However I imagine it is more problematic to go about filming randomly there than around Italy generally.
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Re: If you can't speak Latin in Rome...

Postby einzelne » Mon Sep 06, 2021 2:06 am

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Re: If you can't speak Latin in Rome...

Postby Le Baron » Mon Sep 06, 2021 3:03 am

Optime! He's really putting them through their paces. Nice one, I didn't think he'd get in there to do this.

In the comments some nut wrote these gems:
ancient Greek does not exists, its actually Turkic language. As Mehmed II wrote to Pope after liberating constantinople, "we are descendants of Troy. And we avenged our ancestors" and staying that Romans are trojans as well. Therefore turks (trojans) and Pope (post trojans) should form an alliance. And this is confirmed and supported by greatest leader of all time. Atatürk

well, are you going to deny what Atatürk and Mehmed II said? Are you more credible than them? Atatürk supported the idea of lost continent of Mu, which all humanity derives from, and original inhabitants of Mu were turks, all humanity of today is turkic. And Mehmed II knew that trojans were turkic


:lol:
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Re: If you can't speak Latin in Rome...

Postby Hash » Mon Sep 06, 2021 7:24 am

tungemål wrote:Haha. That's great. Now someone try the same experiment speaking old english in London or old norse in Norway.


Or Biblical Hebrew in Tel Aviv!


Le Baron wrote:Optime! He's really putting them through their paces. Nice one, I didn't think he'd get in there to do this.

In the comments some nut wrote these gems:
ancient Greek does not exists, its actually Turkic language. As Mehmed II wrote to Pope after liberating constantinople, "we are descendants of Troy. And we avenged our ancestors" and staying that Romans are trojans as well. Therefore turks (trojans) and Pope (post trojans) should form an alliance. And this is confirmed and supported by greatest leader of all time. Atatürk

well, are you going to deny what Atatürk and Mehmed II said? Are you more credible than them? Atatürk supported the idea of lost continent of Mu, which all humanity derives from, and original inhabitants of Mu were turks, all humanity of today is turkic. And Mehmed II knew that trojans were turkic


:lol:


He's obviously a troll.
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Re: If you can't speak Latin in Rome...

Postby Elexi » Fri Oct 08, 2021 11:25 am

Actually - Luke did go the Vatican and speak Latin to priests. Unsurprisingly, the spoken Latin of most of the Catholic priests was bad to not that good, but some could speak enough Latin to have a very basic conversation.

I think the more interesting experiment would be to go to a classics department of a top university and see if academic Latinists can speak it at Luke's level.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDhEzP0b-Wo&t=344s
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Re: If you can't speak Latin in Rome...

Postby David27 » Fri Oct 08, 2021 12:02 pm

Elexi wrote:Actually - Luke did go the Vatican and speak Latin to priests. Unsurprisingly, the spoken Latin of most of the Catholic priests was bad to not that good, but some could speak enough Latin to have a very basic conversation.

I think the more interesting experiment would be to go to a classics department of a top university and see if academic Latinists can speak it at Luke's level.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDhEzP0b-Wo&t=344s



Unless they practice speaking regularly (unlikely, but maybe some do?), then there is no way they would be able to speak anywhere near Luke's level. They would need to practice it regularly to maintain some degree of spoken fluency like Luke and his friends in his videos have, but I too would be interested to see how well they could get by.
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