Etymology across languages (DEU & RUS)

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Etymology across languages (DEU & RUS)

Postby IronMike » Fri Apr 16, 2021 2:09 pm

I wonder if any of you know of online sources where one could search for language borrowings or etymology between languages, or if I should simply try and find a German etymology site and a Russian etymology site. (Damn if I don't wish I'd bought that expensive but expansive Russian etymology dictionary in Moscow so many years ago.)

I wonder if блядь and blöd are related, or are sprung from the same source.
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Re: Etymology across languages (DEU & RUS)

Postby Deinonysus » Fri Apr 16, 2021 2:21 pm

Wiktionary is really good for etymology. For these two words, the entry for blöd only went back to Proto-Germanic and блядь to Proto-Slavic, but upon further clicking it looks like they ultimately derive from different Proto-Indo-European words. It looks like blöd is related to the English word "bloat", while блядь is related to the English word "blind".
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Re: Etymology across languages (DEU & RUS)

Postby Ogrim » Fri Apr 16, 2021 2:33 pm

I know this doesn't exactly answer your question, but the site Wikibooks lists loanwords in Russian from various languages, including German. So it does not address etymology, just words that were borrowed from other languages into Russian.
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Re: Etymology across languages (DEU & RUS)

Postby coldrainwater » Fri Apr 16, 2021 11:40 pm

You might want to check out The Tower of Babel (site available in Russian). I had bookmarked the Germanic Etymology portion of the site previously.

Next up, I actually read and enjoyed Etymological Dictionary of the German Language by Friedrich Kluge even though I don't recall seeing a direct treatment of Russian (here is the easiest way to read or browse Kluge's as a wiki: Kluge's Full Text). A direct link to Grimm's is also worth checking out independently: Deutsches Wörterbuch von Jacob Grimm und Wilhelm Grimm even though you can access it from the primary German etymology references offered on DWDS.

Last but not least, I think you will find Wörterbuch der russisch-deutschen Übersetzungsschwierigkeiten useful (scroll down to get to Spezialwörterbücher and pick the Russian).
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Re: Etymology across languages (DEU & RUS)

Postby Elsa Maria » Sat Apr 17, 2021 12:48 am

I really like Etymologygeek.com
https://etymologeek.com/
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Re: Etymology across languages (DEU & RUS)

Postby IronMike » Sat Apr 17, 2021 7:00 pm

You guys rock, thanks so much! This is why I love this site.
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