Japanese yon and shi

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Japanese yon and shi

Postby Ccaesar » Mon Jan 25, 2021 8:06 pm

Hello everyone
I have spent the last two weeks trying to learn and memorise time, weeks, months, days, measurements, and numbers.
I noticed certain patterns, however, I would like some rules as to when you use shi/shichi instead of yo(n)/Nana and how come the "n" disappears at times, like in yotsu?
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Re: Japanese yon and shi

Postby Xenops » Mon Jan 25, 2021 8:26 pm

Ccaesar wrote:Hello everyone
I have spent the last two weeks trying to learn and memorise time, weeks, months, days, measurements, and numbers.
I noticed certain patterns, however, I would like some rules as to when you use shi/shichi instead of yo(n)/Nana and how come the "n" disappears at times, like in yotsu?


Here is an explanation about Japanese numbers: Counting in Japanese

In short, it depends on whether the word is from Chinese or Japanese originally.
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Re: Japanese yon and shi

Postby devilyoudont » Tue Jan 26, 2021 2:26 am

Some observations about よ vs よん (exceptions may exist)

--It's possible to create borderline illegal stuff in the counter word because of ん... in which case よ tends to replace よん... your example is one of these... the counter is usually っつ, so we might expect it to be よんっつ except んっ is borderline impossible in Japanese.
--When avoiding し and using counters which use chinese numbers... it seems like よ tends to be preferred over よん (四時、十四日)
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Re: Japanese yon and shi

Postby Ccaesar » Tue Jan 26, 2021 12:37 pm

Thank you very much for the explainations guys, it's much appreciated!
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