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Re: Memrise is moving our decks to Decks

Postby ロータス » Fri Mar 01, 2019 9:33 pm

MamaPata wrote:I appreciate all of the work trying to explain how to move decks (I am still lost, but that's nobody else's fault).

I really like flashcards and I really liked Memrise because I could organise my decks so easily. I like to have different decks and then different levels within a deck (i.e. for an article or a particular lesson, etc). As far as I understand, that's not something I can do in Anki? Does anyone have any suggestions? I would also ideally like to be able to access an app on an ipad, which again is not an option for Anki. (Yes, I know, Apple is the devil incarnate, but it's what I use)


You can do this in Anki but not simple to do. You can create a main deck and make sub decks "levels" by dragging another deck under the main one and create cards in these sub decks.
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Re: Memrise is moving our decks to Decks

Postby Brun Ugle » Fri Mar 01, 2019 9:37 pm

MamaPata wrote:I appreciate all of the work trying to explain how to move decks (I am still lost, but that's nobody else's fault).

I really like flashcards and I really liked Memrise because I could organise my decks so easily. I like to have different decks and then different levels within a deck (i.e. for an article or a particular lesson, etc). As far as I understand, that's not something I can do in Anki? Does anyone have any suggestions? I would also ideally like to be able to access an app on an ipad, which again is not an option for Anki. (Yes, I know, Apple is the devil incarnate, but it's what I use)

Would using tags to filter your deck solve the level problem? You could tag each card by lesson number and then filter the deck to study only the lesson you want. There is an app for iPad. It just costs money. It’s well worth the cost in my opinion.
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Re: Memrise is moving our decks to Decks

Postby lingua » Fri Mar 01, 2019 9:42 pm

I've been playing with both Anki and Quizlet (trial paid version) this week. I like some things about Quizlet but I too prefer the levels of Memrise for organization purposes. I still do not like Anki though I am happy I was able to get it to accept input. The only way I can see dealing with this is to make many small decks unfortunately.

Quizlet does have an offline mode for apple or android and it's only $20 a year. The paid version allows you make as many decks as you want and you can organize them in folders which might work for some. I do not know how the app is because I am an old fashioned desktop user.
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Re: Memrise is moving our decks to Decks

Postby rdearman » Fri Mar 01, 2019 10:00 pm

MamaPata wrote:I appreciate all of the work trying to explain how to move decks (I am still lost, but that's nobody else's fault).

I really like flashcards and I really liked Memrise because I could organise my decks so easily. I like to have different decks and then different levels within a deck (i.e. for an article or a particular lesson, etc). As far as I understand, that's not something I can do in Anki? Does anyone have any suggestions? I would also ideally like to be able to access an app on an ipad, which again is not an option for Anki. (Yes, I know, Apple is the devil incarnate, but it's what I use)

Anki is available on Apple, in fact it was written for Apple first. The only problem is you have to pay for it. My daughter bought it for her phone and ipad for use with her medical studies and never looked back, it is a one-off payment. I use it so much I gave the developer a donation even though the devices I use it on it is free.
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Re: Memrise is moving our decks to Decks

Postby zenmonkey » Fri Mar 01, 2019 10:20 pm

rdearman wrote:
MamaPata wrote:I appreciate all of the work trying to explain how to move decks (I am still lost, but that's nobody else's fault).

I really like flashcards and I really liked Memrise because I could organise my decks so easily. I like to have different decks and then different levels within a deck (i.e. for an article or a particular lesson, etc). As far as I understand, that's not something I can do in Anki? Does anyone have any suggestions? I would also ideally like to be able to access an app on an ipad, which again is not an option for Anki. (Yes, I know, Apple is the devil incarnate, but it's what I use)

Anki is available on Apple, in fact it was written for Apple first. The only problem is you have to pay for it. My daughter bought it for her phone and ipad for use with her medical studies and never looked back, it is a one-off payment. I use it so much I gave the developer a donation even though the devices I use it on it is free.


I paid for it on the iPad (free on the Mac) and it is probably the best investment in time I've made. Pay once, use it on all your iOS devices.

You can make sub-decks in Anki without a problem.
You have two methods.
1) use tags and then select, unselect cards and suspend them
2) rename your sub-decks like this :

French::verbs::easy
French::verbs::hard
etc...

Each will be a sub-deck of French and of French Verbs...

Here is an example from my own decks:

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Re: Memrise is moving our decks to Decks

Postby languist » Fri Mar 01, 2019 11:49 pm

zenmonkey wrote:2) rename your sundecks with like this :

French::verbs::easy
French::verbs::hard
etc...


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Re: Memrise is moving our decks to Decks

Postby aokoye » Sat Mar 02, 2019 5:13 am

Christi wrote:
MamaPata wrote: I like to have different decks and then different levels within a deck (i.e. for an article or a particular lesson, etc).

I decided to use Quizlet for the same reason. It's a little bit different from Memrise (no Mems, SRS or option to review several levels at once as far as I can tell), but not as different as Anki seems to be.

There is an SRS function (which allows you to review multiple sub folders), but it's not free. That said, the premium version, Quizlet+, is $19.99 a year. That seems like a very fair price to me. A fair enough price that I might resubscribe.

I personally like Quizlet more than Anki for a number of reasons, but I'm begrudgingly trying to use Anki for Biblical Hebrew.
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Re: Memrise is moving our decks to Decks

Postby Whodathunkitz » Sat Mar 02, 2019 10:56 pm

Short: very disappointed. Will check out alternatives and try to save some of my own and user generated courses elsewhere.

Long:

For unusual languages (Cebuano), memrise was fantastic.

Being a language learning novice with no resources and lots of 5 minute sessions available most days (waiting for people to show up to meetings, baby sitting multitasking) I got through thousands of items (words and phrases) in just a few months.

I just checked. I'm at 7.3 million points and 6500 words/phrases (mostly from a few months in 2015). All using the app. I'm currently and was above a few memrise staff (eg. Ben Whately but plenty more at the time). Nowhere near some of the people like ericad, suba etc at 200/100 million plus who I suspect have slowed down from their peaks anyway.

It really got me going even though many of the courses were incomplete, plain wrong, based on archaic versions of Cebuano. It was by far the most effective thing for me at that time. I found sentence courses best for me, but needed the word ones initially.

I haven't used it extensively for a few years (well not as mad) but dip in now and then (EG on a shuttle bus). I created some courses but the best Cebuano ones were added by a user quite recently and I have a lot more of their courses to go through.

I felt uneasy at changes to the app and read up on how the first contributers seemed to have been promised reward via some mechanism and then the app went wifi only (since changed), annoying and I found listening-reading, readlang, 10000 sentences (Spanish), my own code instead.

I think that the initial premise as I understand it was correct and everything since then has been wrong. They had a niche that they dominated and now they want to go and compete in segments which Duolingo and others have sewn up.

I'm also aware that some teachers/schools create memrise courses and set homework of so many points per week.

I really don't get it.

Hosting user created courses is pretty cheap. Text used for some courses EG Cebuano really cheap. Audio/images/video maybe more expensive but cloud hosting gets ever cheaper. Downloading once to an offline app should be cheap.

Sharing just a little money (prizes?) with course creators is much cheaper than employing course creators. And can they do it better or cheaper than the Duolingo model?

10000 sentences android app (creator is on here? It's fast and good) Could form a basis / inspiration for a replacement with a web interface for using on big screens and also course creation. If commercial, I'd like to see course creators get rewarded through money or at least recognition.

The only problem is marketing, how to reach. That's expensive for a commercial app/site.
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Re: Memrise is moving our decks to Decks

Postby dicentra8 » Fri Mar 15, 2019 3:14 pm

Some good news concerning Decks! (source)

After weighing this up, we’ve decided to build a Decks app for iOS and Android.
(...)
In terms of how the Decks app will work:
    It will work essentially the same way as the Memrise app for community course learning
    It will contain offline mode, which you’ll be able to use if you’re a Memrise subscriber
    Like the Decks website, you’ll be able to use your Memrise details to log into the Decks app and all your progress will be retained and moved across.
    Until the Decks mobile app launches, you’ll be able to carry on learning community-created courses in the Memrise app as you do now.
(...)
Last but not least, on Monday the Decks website will go live.


But personally I'm still "will believe when I actually see it". :P
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Re: Memrise is moving our decks to Decks

Postby Cèid Donn » Mon Mar 18, 2019 12:38 am

I like how in that email Memrise sent out a few days ago, it alludes to how they supposedly informed everyone about Decks back when they first announced it, except they didn't. Most people never got an email, and the only other ways people heard about it was from announcements on the forum (which most users never visit) and on the log-in page of the website (which you would miss if you stayed logged in or used the app, as many users do). It felt like they were trying not to get teh word out, to be honest. The main reason news spread was because of people on the Memrise forum were making so much noise about it.

Anyhow, I didn't enjoy a week of logging on to the Memrise app and not being sure if my courses would be there or not, because "mid May" isn't exactly precise. At least for now I can take small comfort that they wouldn't touch the app until they get this Deck app going.

The whole thing is so ridiculous--this has to be about money and monetizing content in a way where they won't be obligated to pay community course creators. That's the only thing that makes any sense.
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