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by s_allard
Mon May 22, 2017 10:39 pm
Forum: General Language Discussion
Topic: How do you know if you understand?
Replies: 35
Views: 1344

Re: How do you know if you understand?

It isn't beginner, but it certainly needs to be introduced before the C-levels. And yes, the Spanish construction is impersonal. But it is different because in Spanish you can drop subject pronouns, so the way the structure ends up being used is different. Dative constructions have been used in the...
by s_allard
Mon May 22, 2017 9:55 pm
Forum: General Language Discussion
Topic: How do you know if you understand?
Replies: 35
Views: 1344

Re: How do you know if you understand?

Some people might say that none of this stuff is really important in real life as long as you have a gist of what is going on. True, but when time comes to use this stuff - if ever that happens, such as in a C-level exam - they key to using it well is to understand how it works. Il vous reste is a ...
by s_allard
Mon May 22, 2017 9:30 pm
Forum: General Language Discussion
Topic: How do you know if you understand?
Replies: 35
Views: 1344

Re: How do you know if you understand?

Some people might say that none of this stuff is really important in real life as long as you have a gist of what is going on. True, but when time comes to use this stuff - if ever that happens, such as in a C-level exam - they key to using it well is to understand how it works. Il vous reste is a ...
by s_allard
Mon May 22, 2017 8:36 pm
Forum: General Language Discussion
Topic: How do you know if you understand?
Replies: 35
Views: 1344

Re: How do you know if you understand?

True to form, reineke's contribution of a citation on extensive reading is rather irrelevant to the subject of the thread because it does not address the issue of what and how the learner understands. The problem isn't whether a text is meaningful or not; it's what do learners understand perceive. F...
by s_allard
Mon May 22, 2017 7:53 pm
Forum: General Language Discussion
Topic: How do you know if you understand?
Replies: 35
Views: 1344

Re: How do you know if you understand?

... Native speakers function just fine and dandy without perfect understanding. It's not that important. Language is about functioning in real life for most people. Why do you have to use something ? Maybe people are happy not understanding something and not using that particular construction. Lega...
by s_allard
Mon May 22, 2017 7:20 pm
Forum: General Language Discussion
Topic: How do you know if you understand?
Replies: 35
Views: 1344

Re: How do you know if you understand?

I don't think it is important. We don't really understand a lot of stuff in our native language. Functioning is the main goal as far as practicality is concerned. When we don't have to think about something that's said, we probably understand it. It is probably quite true that for many people under...
by s_allard
Mon May 22, 2017 6:32 pm
Forum: General Language Discussion
Topic: How do you know if you understand?
Replies: 35
Views: 1344

Re: How do you know if you understand?

I appreciate that for most people there doesn't really seem to be much of a problem with understanding. So, there is nothing to talk about. End of story. But since I'm confronted on a daily basis with problems of misunderstanding both as a teacher and as a learner, one of the things I look at is why...
by s_allard
Mon May 22, 2017 4:25 pm
Forum: General Language Discussion
Topic: How do you know if you understand?
Replies: 35
Views: 1344

Re: How do you know if you understand?

Language is inherently redundant. This redundancy is what makes it possible for us to learn our mother tongues largely by inference. If you misunderstand something, this will create contradictions, incoherence, telling you that someting is amiss. The secret lies in understanding the larger context....
by s_allard
Mon May 22, 2017 4:00 pm
Forum: General Language Discussion
Topic: Is binge-reading of any value?
Replies: 56
Views: 2467

Re: Is binge-reading of any value?

... I think that the majority of successful language learners eventually reach a point where they can knock off a book in a sitting or two. They can get there in a variety of ways (including through extensive, pleasurable activities). ... I have to be in the minority here or maybe I'm not a success...
by s_allard
Mon May 22, 2017 3:15 pm
Forum: General Language Discussion
Topic: How do you know if you understand?
Replies: 35
Views: 1344

How do you know if you understand?

In the course of thinking about intensive vs extensive reading, it occurred to me that that we rarely talk about what it means to really understand things we read. Three recent incidents brought this to my attention. First, when discussing a sentence with my tutor, I realized that I had never really...

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