“Finnisch mit extra Mühe” -- a group learning project (because Finnish wasn't hard enough before)

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tiia
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Re: “Finnisch mit extra Mühe” -- a group learning project (because Finnish wasn't hard enough before)

Postby tiia » Tue Mar 26, 2024 9:43 pm

Of course after a while you will need to get a feel for this. Otherwise speaking fluently will not be possible in any language.
The thing is that there are those word types, and when I started to learn, it was clear we learned those types step by step, so we were never confronted with the complete amount of groups, before we already knew most of them anyway.
I mean that first list that you posted is quite good, but maybe it is just "too much" for the beginning. The second link may be a bit more compact.
There are some rules as you have seen and in the end it is just being able to sort the words into their group. Once you know where they belong they are quite regular.

- The most confusing group is probably all those words ending in -s as there are quite a lot of different groups ending in "something + -s".
- Another issue are probably the "new" vs. "old" words. But often you can just think about the meaning of the word and then see whether a word is probably "new" or "old".
- And then there is the goup with -(u)us/-(y)ys like rakkaus or laukaus, where they may looklike the belong to the same group, but decline in a different way. There the distinction is mostly between abstract and concrete concepts/things.
Raukkaus is more an abstract concept, while laukaus is very concrete, so they decline differently: rakkaus, rakkauden, rakkautta and laukaus, laukauksen, laukausta.
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fenkoli
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Re: “Finnisch mit extra Mühe” -- a group learning project (because Finnish wasn't hard enough before)

Postby fenkoli » Fri Apr 26, 2024 5:59 am

Anyone in here? It'd be nice to meet other people learning Finnish, haha.
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bombobuffoon
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Re: “Finnisch mit extra Mühe” -- a group learning project (because Finnish wasn't hard enough before)

Postby bombobuffoon » Fri Apr 26, 2024 7:25 am

fenkoli wrote:Anyone in here? It'd be nice to meet other people learning Finnish, haha.


Yes. I have a whole log dedicated to it, although its hardly worth reading.
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