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Re: Log rlnv 2017 (FR)

Postby rlnv » Mon Mar 27, 2017 2:57 am

This was originally my first post. Horrible use of French. I regret this. :) The corrections above by reineke were in relation to this.

rlnv - at a time of drunkenness wrote:Je suis déjà là et je suis libre comme un fou, donc il faut écrire un nouveau log sur mon site internet préféré. On dirait que, quand j'écris en français c'est comme je suis un rat de désert des États-Unis du sud-ouest. C'est pour ça que les corrections sont toujours le bienvenu chez moi. Merci d'avance.

Je viens de franchir 2 000 000 mots de français en lire des romans. Wahoo ! J’ai trouvé plusieurs excellents romains sur le chemin. Je vais les parts aujourd’hui.

Notables sont tous les deux par Boileau-Narcejac que j’ai lu, Sueurs froides et Terminus. Le style de ceux-ci me convient énormément. Il suscite le sens de proximité aux protagonistes, parfois en noircir ou hors de portée de quelque chose, même les rapports d’amitié ou amour. Le style sert à séduire la lecture. Bons livres.

Un autre romain que j’aimais beaucoup a été Le Chant de l’océan par Marie-Bernadette Dupuy. C’était un romain plein d’émotion et très émouvoir. Il s’agit d’une jeune fille qui dois se trouve comment survive dans un monde rude, et surtout se trouve le bonheur qu’elle manque et a très besoin. Avertissement, ne pas lire à moins que vous aimiez cri. Vivement recommandé. :)


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Re: Le log de rlnv 2017 (FR)

Postby rlnv » Mon Mar 27, 2017 3:04 am

jeffers wrote:I prefer a stepped approach like this myself. For one thing, it's less frustrating, and since you're just doing it for yourself you can follow whatever method is most interesting to you.


HI jeffers, thanks for stopping by. I agree completely with the concept of doing as one wants, as one finds interesting or fun. At least in my case, being a hobbyist, I wouldn't have it any other way. I'm sure if I needed French for employment or another pressing need, I'd approach it differently.
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Re: Le log de rlnv 2017 (FR)

Postby reineke » Mon Mar 27, 2017 5:19 pm

rlnv wrote:Merci pour vos réponses.

luke wrote:I'll vote that you continue doing what you've been doing. If you want science to back you up, there's Stephen Krashen who also probably likes what you've been doing.


De temps en temps je pense que je vis dans un monde qu’il n’existe que les extrêmes.

reineke wrote:Eh... I have a bone to pick with Mr Krashen.

Some suggestions.

Don't drop your media consumption. I don't care about the challenge..

I assume that you can pronounce French reasonably well.

Finish Mauger's Cours de langue...


I have probably never spoken more than a thousand words in French, and haven't done so for a long time. At some point I decided that, for the time being, I have no need to talk French. That may change at any time, and if it does, I'll certainly make it a priority based on need.

Right or wrong, I decided to focus on input skills first, doing so has given me a lot of enjoyment and I'm happy with where I am. Now I'm wanting to progress in writing only, not speaking at this time.

I realize that taking a stepped approach like this instead of working on all receptive and productive skills at a more or less equal pace is not ideal. I accept that, for me this is just a hobby. At some point I do what to write fiction in French...



I wasn't suggesting any speaking exercises. I have plenty of other reasons to pick a fight with Krashen. I was responding to your post where you were ready "to do all that needs to be done" or something like that. If you're doing an hour of any type of coursework that involves writing followed by listening and reading that sounds great.

...dans un monde d'extrêmes...
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Re: Log rlnv 2017 (FR)

Postby rlnv » Sat Apr 01, 2017 1:20 am

Day 5 complete.

So far, so good. I created a spreadsheet to track my progress towards getting into the habit of studying workbooks each day before allowing myself to read French books or watch French shows. I also put a reminder on my phone calendar to pop up the day number.

Five days down, and eighty five to go before I've completed three months towards ingraining a good habit. No more laziness of just reading and watching shows.

Day Date Study Minutes
1 2017-03-27 60
2 2017-03-28 87
3 2017-03-29 60
4 2017-03-30 60
5 2017-03-31 75

Workbook progress

I've been working on PMP French Pronouns and Prepositions. It's become apparent to me that I greatly prefer the PMP books over the CLE International books, Grammaire Progressive series of books. The PMP books seem to have a more logical flow of material progression, have more exercises, and give more space to write answers down. I'm looking forward to continuing to work though them.

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Et les jours filaient, formant des semaines qui, elles-mêmes, composaient des mois. - Citation Marie-Bernadette Dupuy
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Postby rlnv » Sat Apr 01, 2017 1:53 am

I feel like I'm in the home stretch with the 5000 French Frequency Anki deck. Only 681 unseen cards remain at this time. I've been working on this deck since mid 2016, with only 12 new cards per day I've been able to keep the reviews down below 150 per day. A total of 75 hours spent on the deck so far, averaging 13.5 minutes per day, or 6.4 seconds per card.

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Re: Log rlnv 2017 (FR)

Postby rlnv » Sat Apr 01, 2017 4:07 am

1968.



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Re: Log rlnv 2017 (FR)

Postby PeterMollenburg » Sat Apr 01, 2017 10:02 am

rlnv wrote:I feel like I'm in the home stretch with the 5000 French Frequency Anki deck. Only 681 unseen cards remain at this time. I've been working on this deck since mid 2016, with only 12 new cards per day I've been able to keep the reviews down below 150 per day. A total of 75 hours spent on the deck so far, averaging 13.5 minutes per day, or 6.4 seconds per card.


Nice going rlnv, the consistent hard work is paying off, the light is at the end of the tunnel. :)
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Re: Log rlnv 2017 (FR)

Postby rlnv » Sat Apr 01, 2017 5:38 pm

PeterMollenburg wrote:Nice going rlnv, the consistent hard work is paying off, the light is at the end of the tunnel. :)


Thank you. The great thing about Anki is that it can be done in miscellaneous spare time. I think I spend about 30 minutes per day, or maybe a bit more when I include all my decks. On the 5000 deck, I find my self getting a bit retentive, and keep failing the group of ~20 cards which kills my average, but sooner or later they will burn into memory. Funny how that works, some words seen the first time are remembered immediately, and some just don't sink in until some massive amount of times seen in many contexts.
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Re: Log rlnv 2017 (FR)

Postby rlnv » Sat Apr 01, 2017 5:41 pm

I did the Dialang reading test. I'm a bit disappointed, I thought i would score a bit higher, or at least I had hoped to. I'll try again in another 6 months or so.

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Re: Log rlnv 2017 (FR)

Postby rlnv » Sat Apr 01, 2017 10:26 pm

Here is the Dialang listening test. I'm satisfied with this result overall. I'm sure if the test included either Buffy or Angel audio, I'd be much higher. :lol:

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